DEVIL’S DEN at Gettysburg – Exclusive Tour with Civil War Expert Garry Adelman

0:03 It is July 1863 and the United States

0:03 It is July 1863 and the United States has been invaded. Confederate forces

0:06 has been invaded. Confederate forces

0:06 has been invaded. Confederate forces have crossed the border into

0:08 have crossed the border into

0:08 have crossed the border into Pennsylvania. The United States army is

0:10 Pennsylvania. The United States army is

0:10 Pennsylvania. The United States army is in hot pursuit, but neither army really

0:13 in hot pursuit, but neither army really

0:13 in hot pursuit, but neither army really knows where the other is until they

0:14 knows where the other is until they

0:14 knows where the other is until they stumble into each other in the small

0:16 stumble into each other in the small

0:16 stumble into each other in the small town of Gettysburg. Gettysburg is just

0:19 town of Gettysburg. Gettysburg is just

0:19 town of Gettysburg. Gettysburg is just beyond those hills right out there.

0:21 beyond those hills right out there.

0:21 beyond those hills right out there. That's where the town lies. And on the

0:23 That's where the town lies. And on the

0:23 That's where the town lies. And on the first day of the battle, the

0:24 first day of the battle, the

0:24 first day of the battle, the Confederates actually pushed the Union

0:26 Confederates actually pushed the Union

0:26 Confederates actually pushed the Union Army out and took the town. But then the

0:29 Army out and took the town. But then the

0:29 Army out and took the town. But then the Union Army began to take positions on

0:32 Union Army began to take positions on

0:32 Union Army began to take positions on the heights stretching out south of town

0:34 the heights stretching out south of town

0:34 the heights stretching out south of town while the Confederates started taking

0:36 while the Confederates started taking

0:36 while the Confederates started taking positions along this ridge off in the

0:38 positions along this ridge off in the

0:38 positions along this ridge off in the distance. And these armies were so

0:40 distance. And these armies were so

0:40 distance. And these armies were so massive that their lines extended for 2

0:43 massive that their lines extended for 2

0:43 massive that their lines extended for 2 miles south of the town. They didn't

0:45 miles south of the town. They didn't

0:45 miles south of the town. They didn't know it then, but they were about to

0:46 know it then, but they were about to

0:46 know it then, but they were about to participate in the biggest battle of the

0:49 participate in the biggest battle of the

0:49 participate in the biggest battle of the Civil War, the biggest battle in United

0:51 Civil War, the biggest battle in United

0:51 Civil War, the biggest battle in United States history. When you look at the map

0:53 States history. When you look at the map

0:53 States history. When you look at the map of the battle, you can see just how far

0:55 of the battle, you can see just how far

0:55 of the battle, you can see just how far down the Union and Confederate lines

0:57 down the Union and Confederate lines

0:57 down the Union and Confederate lines stretch from the town facing each other

0:59 stretch from the town facing each other

0:59 stretch from the town facing each other for the second day of the battle, July

1:01 for the second day of the battle, July

1:01 for the second day of the battle, July 2nd, 1863. And as you can see, this hill

1:04 2nd, 1863. And as you can see, this hill

1:04 2nd, 1863. And as you can see, this hill that we're standing on, little roundtop,

1:06 that we're standing on, little roundtop,

1:06 that we're standing on, little roundtop, is almost like a fortress. It has a

1:09 is almost like a fortress. It has a

1:09 is almost like a fortress. It has a commanding view over the battlefield, a

1:12 commanding view over the battlefield, a

1:12 commanding view over the battlefield, a dominating view over what was the Union

1:14 dominating view over what was the Union

1:14 dominating view over what was the Union lines. So off here in this clearing in

1:16 lines. So off here in this clearing in

1:16 lines. So off here in this clearing in the middle distance, you could see the

1:18 the middle distance, you could see the

1:18 the middle distance, you could see the center of the Union lines. If you had

1:20 center of the Union lines. If you had

1:20 center of the Union lines. If you had cannons up here, you could see right

1:21 cannons up here, you could see right

1:21 cannons up here, you could see right over them. It's a pretty key position on

1:24 over them. It's a pretty key position on

1:24 over them. It's a pretty key position on the battlefield. And General George

1:27 the battlefield. And General George

1:27 the battlefield. And General George Gordon me, the commanding general of the

1:29 Gordon me, the commanding general of the

1:30 Gordon me, the commanding general of the United States forces here, had

1:32 United States forces here, had

1:32 United States forces here, had instructed one of his subordinate

1:33 instructed one of his subordinate

1:33 instructed one of his subordinate generals, Dan Sickls, to secure this

1:37 generals, Dan Sickls, to secure this

1:37 generals, Dan Sickls, to secure this hill by putting his line down here in

1:41 hill by putting his line down here in

1:41 hill by putting his line down here in front of it. Unfortunately, Sickls did

1:43 front of it. Unfortunately, Sickls did

1:43 front of it. Unfortunately, Sickls did not obey. And so there were no Union

1:45 not obey. And so there were no Union

1:45 not obey. And so there were no Union troops up on this hill during the

1:47 troops up on this hill during the

1:47 troops up on this hill during the battle, which resulted in some of the

1:49 battle, which resulted in some of the

1:49 battle, which resulted in some of the craziest fighting in the entire battle

1:52 craziest fighting in the entire battle

1:52 craziest fighting in the entire battle of Gettysburg. Throughout all the fields

1:55 of Gettysburg. Throughout all the fields

1:55 of Gettysburg. Throughout all the fields and peach orchards and rocky valleys

1:58 and peach orchards and rocky valleys

1:58 and peach orchards and rocky valleys below us, also in the woods back over

2:01 below us, also in the woods back over

2:01 below us, also in the woods back over here on the flank of Little Roundtop,

2:04 here on the flank of Little Roundtop,

2:04 here on the flank of Little Roundtop, commanding these heights was going to be

2:06 commanding these heights was going to be

2:06 commanding these heights was going to be key to winning the battle on that second

2:09 key to winning the battle on that second

2:09 key to winning the battle on that second day. Little Round Top and the fight for

2:10 day. Little Round Top and the fight for

2:10 day. Little Round Top and the fight for it is prominently featured in the 1993

2:13 it is prominently featured in the 1993

2:13 it is prominently featured in the 1993 movie Gettysburg. I've been up here.

2:14 movie Gettysburg. I've been up here.

2:14 movie Gettysburg. I've been up here. I've filmed a video about Little Round

2:17 I've filmed a video about Little Round

2:17 I've filmed a video about Little Round Top and also about the third day of the

2:19 Top and also about the third day of the

2:19 Top and also about the third day of the battle where the Confederates were

2:20 battle where the Confederates were

2:20 battle where the Confederates were finally defeated and pushed back. I've

2:22 finally defeated and pushed back. I've

2:22 finally defeated and pushed back. I've been here many times before, but one

2:24 been here many times before, but one

2:24 been here many times before, but one place I have never been on the

2:26 place I have never been on the

2:26 place I have never been on the Gettysburg battlefield is down below

2:29 Gettysburg battlefield is down below

2:29 Gettysburg battlefield is down below Little Roundtop where some of the most

2:31 Little Roundtop where some of the most

2:31 Little Roundtop where some of the most fierce fighting took place beyond the

2:34 fierce fighting took place beyond the

2:34 fierce fighting took place beyond the valley of death that you see in front of

2:36 valley of death that you see in front of

2:36 valley of death that you see in front of you over there in a place called Devil's

2:38 you over there in a place called Devil's

2:38 you over there in a place called Devil's Den. Reason I've never gone down there

2:40 Den. Reason I've never gone down there

2:40 Den. Reason I've never gone down there is I've always found the Devil's Den

2:41 is I've always found the Devil's Den

2:41 is I've always found the Devil's Den part of the battle very confusing, very

2:43 part of the battle very confusing, very

2:43 part of the battle very confusing, very murky. And so today, I've actually

2:45 murky. And so today, I've actually

2:45 murky. And so today, I've actually arranged to meet with an expert on

2:48 arranged to meet with an expert on

2:48 arranged to meet with an expert on Devil's Den, my favorite Civil War

2:51 Devil's Den, my favorite Civil War

2:51 Devil's Den, my favorite Civil War historian, a guy I first met just by

2:53 historian, a guy I first met just by

2:53 historian, a guy I first met just by running into him here at Gettysburg a

2:55 running into him here at Gettysburg a

2:55 running into him here at Gettysburg a few years ago, Gary Adelman. Now, Gary

2:58 few years ago, Gary Adelman. Now, Gary

2:58 few years ago, Gary Adelman. Now, Gary Adelman is a licensed battlefield guide

3:00 Adelman is a licensed battlefield guide

3:00 Adelman is a licensed battlefield guide here at Gettysburg. He's a historian, an

3:03 here at Gettysburg. He's a historian, an

3:03 here at Gettysburg. He's a historian, an author, works with the American

3:04 author, works with the American

3:04 author, works with the American Battlefield Trust to preserve parts of

3:06 Battlefield Trust to preserve parts of

3:06 Battlefield Trust to preserve parts of the battlefield that aren't owned by the

3:08 the battlefield that aren't owned by the

3:08 the battlefield that aren't owned by the National Park Service. Easily one of the

3:10 National Park Service. Easily one of the

3:10 National Park Service. Easily one of the most popular uh Civil War historians on

3:12 most popular uh Civil War historians on

3:12 most popular uh Civil War historians on the internet. He's appeared in all kinds

3:14 the internet. He's appeared in all kinds

3:14 the internet. He's appeared in all kinds of documentaries. It is a very rare

3:16 of documentaries. It is a very rare

3:16 of documentaries. It is a very rare treat to get a personal tour of any part

3:18 treat to get a personal tour of any part

3:18 treat to get a personal tour of any part of the battlefield from Gary Adelman.

3:20 of the battlefield from Gary Adelman.

3:20 of the battlefield from Gary Adelman. He's in high demand. But now we are

3:22 He's in high demand. But now we are

3:22 He's in high demand. But now we are going to descend the slopes of Little

3:24 going to descend the slopes of Little

3:24 going to descend the slopes of Little Roundtop and go down into the Devil's

3:28 Roundtop and go down into the Devil's

3:28 Roundtop and go down into the Devil's Den and meet up with Gary. All right,

3:30 Den and meet up with Gary. All right,

3:30 Den and meet up with Gary. All right, I've descended the hill and I'm here

3:33 I've descended the hill and I'm here

3:33 I've descended the hill and I'm here with Gary Adelman. Gary, explain. I

3:35 with Gary Adelman. Gary, explain. I

3:35 with Gary Adelman. Gary, explain. I tried to explain who you were. I You're

3:37 tried to explain who you were. I You're

3:37 tried to explain who you were. I You're better at it.

3:38 better at it.

3:38 better at it. >> I am chief historian at the American

3:40 >> I am chief historian at the American

3:40 >> I am chief historian at the American Battlefield Trust. I'm absolutely

3:41 Battlefield Trust. I'm absolutely

3:41 Battlefield Trust. I'm absolutely obsessed with American history, namely

3:43 obsessed with American history, namely

3:43 obsessed with American history, namely the Civil War and namely Gettysburg and

3:45 the Civil War and namely Gettysburg and

3:45 the Civil War and namely Gettysburg and namely Civil War photography. I'm also

3:47 namely Civil War photography. I'm also

3:47 namely Civil War photography. I'm also vice president of the Center for Civil

3:49 vice president of the Center for Civil

3:49 vice president of the Center for Civil War Photography and a licensed

3:50 War Photography and a licensed

3:50 War Photography and a licensed battlefield guide here at Gettysburg for

3:52 battlefield guide here at Gettysburg for

3:52 battlefield guide here at Gettysburg for 31 years. This is awesome. And this is

3:55 31 years. This is awesome. And this is

3:55 31 years. This is awesome. And this is your favorite place on earth. We've come

3:57 your favorite place on earth. We've come

3:57 your favorite place on earth. We've come down to Devil's Den. Now, I know very

4:00 down to Devil's Den. Now, I know very

4:00 down to Devil's Den. Now, I know very little about Devil's Den, and assuming I

4:02 little about Devil's Den, and assuming I

4:02 little about Devil's Den, and assuming I know nothing, what do we need to know?

4:04 know nothing, what do we need to know?

4:04 know nothing, what do we need to know? >> Okay, so we're about 2 and a half miles

4:05 >> Okay, so we're about 2 and a half miles

4:05 >> Okay, so we're about 2 and a half miles south of Gettysburg. Gettysburg would be

4:07 south of Gettysburg. Gettysburg would be

4:07 south of Gettysburg. Gettysburg would be off in that direction. Gettysburg is a

4:08 off in that direction. Gettysburg is a

4:08 off in that direction. Gettysburg is a town of 7 or 8 thousand people now. It

4:10 town of 7 or 8 thousand people now. It

4:10 town of 7 or 8 thousand people now. It was 2,400 people during the battle.

4:12 was 2,400 people during the battle.

4:12 was 2,400 people during the battle. Okay, small farming community, but up

4:14 Okay, small farming community, but up

4:14 Okay, small farming community, but up and coming. You know, we're talking

4:15 and coming. You know, we're talking

4:15 and coming. You know, we're talking about multiple churches, banks,

4:17 about multiple churches, banks,

4:17 about multiple churches, banks, gaslighting, the railroad had come to

4:19 gaslighting, the railroad had come to

4:19 gaslighting, the railroad had come to town. So, it's up and coming. And by the

4:20 town. So, it's up and coming. And by the

4:20 town. So, it's up and coming. And by the way, Los Angeles, from where I think our

4:22 way, Los Angeles, from where I think our

4:22 way, Los Angeles, from where I think our host uh sort of hails, had 4,000 people

4:25 host uh sort of hails, had 4,000 people

4:25 host uh sort of hails, had 4,000 people in 1860. Gettysburg had 2400. So,

4:28 in 1860. Gettysburg had 2400. So,

4:28 in 1860. Gettysburg had 2400. So, there's some real potential here. Maybe

4:29 there's some real potential here. Maybe

4:29 there's some real potential here. Maybe not a fair comparison. Any case, we're

4:32 not a fair comparison. Any case, we're

4:32 not a fair comparison. Any case, we're south of that town a couple of miles and

4:33 south of that town a couple of miles and

4:34 south of that town a couple of miles and we're part we're we're sort of like

4:35 we're part we're we're sort of like

4:35 we're part we're we're sort of like standing on a boulder because we're at

4:37 standing on a boulder because we're at

4:37 standing on a boulder because we're at the edge of a sill called the Gettysburg

4:38 the edge of a sill called the Gettysburg

4:38 the edge of a sill called the Gettysburg Sill that happens to run diagonally

4:40 Sill that happens to run diagonally

4:40 Sill that happens to run diagonally through this part of Pennsylvania. And

4:42 through this part of Pennsylvania. And

4:42 through this part of Pennsylvania. And that means that there's rocks here.

4:44 that means that there's rocks here.

4:44 that means that there's rocks here. There's rocks on a then unnamed hill now

4:46 There's rocks on a then unnamed hill now

4:46 There's rocks on a then unnamed hill now called Little Round Top. One of the most

4:48 called Little Round Top. One of the most

4:48 called Little Round Top. One of the most famous Civil War places of all. And

4:50 famous Civil War places of all. And

4:50 famous Civil War places of all. And Little Roundtop is important because it

4:52 Little Roundtop is important because it

4:52 Little Roundtop is important because it forms the end of what we call the Union

4:54 forms the end of what we call the Union

4:54 forms the end of what we call the Union Fish Hook. Okay. The Union Army, George

4:57 Fish Hook. Okay. The Union Army, George

4:57 Fish Hook. Okay. The Union Army, George Gordon me, 90,000 soldiers or so are

5:00 Gordon me, 90,000 soldiers or so are

5:00 Gordon me, 90,000 soldiers or so are going to form this way on the second day

5:02 going to form this way on the second day

5:02 going to form this way on the second day of the battle. Look, I brought my own

5:03 of the battle. Look, I brought my own

5:03 of the battle. Look, I brought my own fish hook with me. Okay, and it's

5:05 fish hook with me. Okay, and it's

5:05 fish hook with me. Okay, and it's supposed to end here on Little Round

5:06 supposed to end here on Little Round

5:06 supposed to end here on Little Round Top. Okay, it is going to go up to other

5:09 Top. Okay, it is going to go up to other

5:09 Top. Okay, it is going to go up to other famous places like Cemetery Ridge,

5:11 famous places like Cemetery Ridge,

5:11 famous places like Cemetery Ridge, Cemetery Hill, and Culps Hill, the ends

5:13 Cemetery Hill, and Culps Hill, the ends

5:13 Cemetery Hill, and Culps Hill, the ends of which have rocks on them because of

5:14 of which have rocks on them because of

5:14 of which have rocks on them because of the sill. Okay, and for two days, July

5:17 the sill. Okay, and for two days, July

5:17 the sill. Okay, and for two days, July 2nd and 3rd, 1863, some of the bloodiest

5:20 2nd and 3rd, 1863, some of the bloodiest

5:20 2nd and 3rd, 1863, some of the bloodiest combat in American history. We're

5:22 combat in American history. We're

5:22 combat in American history. We're talking about 21,000 casualties on the

5:24 talking about 21,000 casualties on the

5:24 talking about 21,000 casualties on the second, 13,000 casualties on the third,

5:27 second, 13,000 casualties on the third,

5:27 second, 13,000 casualties on the third, and these are backto-back after the

5:29 and these are backto-back after the

5:29 and these are backto-back after the first day where there were 17,000

5:31 first day where there were 17,000

5:31 first day where there were 17,000 casualties or more. So, we're talking

5:33 casualties or more. So, we're talking

5:33 casualties or more. So, we're talking about some heaviest combat that make up

5:35 about some heaviest combat that make up

5:35 about some heaviest combat that make up the bloodiest battle ever fought in

5:36 the bloodiest battle ever fought in

5:36 the bloodiest battle ever fought in American history. Now,

5:37 American history. Now,

5:38 American history. Now, >> because this is Little Round Top over

5:39 >> because this is Little Round Top over

5:39 >> because this is Little Round Top over here.

5:41 here.

5:41 here. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure you're going

5:42 Yeah. And I'm pretty sure you're going

5:42 Yeah. And I'm pretty sure you're going to go up there and get some B-roll from

5:44 to go up there and get some B-roll from

5:44 to go up there and get some B-roll from up there. In fact, I see some blinking

5:47 up there. In fact, I see some blinking

5:47 up there. In fact, I see some blinking lights up there. Maybe somebody's taking

5:48 lights up there. Maybe somebody's taking

5:48 lights up there. Maybe somebody's taking pictures of us. Um, you know, it's a

5:51 pictures of us. Um, you know, it's a

5:51 pictures of us. Um, you know, it's a great view from there. Much better than

5:52 great view from there. Much better than

5:52 great view from there. Much better than you think. And it would have been a

5:54 you think. And it would have been a

5:54 you think. And it would have been a great place to hold. But the commander

5:55 great place to hold. But the commander

5:55 great place to hold. But the commander in that area, 10,000 soldiers. Yeah.

5:57 in that area, 10,000 soldiers. Yeah.

5:57 in that area, 10,000 soldiers. Yeah. Because of the command of a guy around

5:59 Because of the command of a guy around

5:59 Because of the command of a guy around top is here at the tip of the fish hook.

6:00 top is here at the tip of the fish hook.

6:00 top is here at the tip of the fish hook. Correct. The town is up basically up

6:02 Correct. The town is up basically up

6:02 Correct. The town is up basically up here.

6:02 here. >> Yeah. Yeah.

6:03 >> Yeah. Yeah.

6:03 >> Yeah. Yeah. >> 2 and a2 miles of soldiers. How many

6:05 >> 2 and a2 miles of soldiers. How many

6:05 >> 2 and a2 miles of soldiers. How many Union soldiers?

6:06 Union soldiers?

6:06 Union soldiers? >> 90 85,000 by that time or something like

6:08 >> 90 85,000 by that time or something like

6:08 >> 90 85,000 by that time or something like that.

6:08 that.

6:08 that. >> And you don't want a break or a gap in

6:09 >> And you don't want a break or a gap in

6:09 >> And you don't want a break or a gap in that line. It's very important to have a

6:11 that line. It's very important to have a

6:11 that line. It's very important to have a solid line.

6:12 solid line.

6:12 solid line. >> Correct. The the Union line has say

6:14 >> Correct. The the Union line has say

6:14 >> Correct. The the Union line has say 85,000 soldiers on this line here. And

6:16 85,000 soldiers on this line here. And

6:16 85,000 soldiers on this line here. And that allowed their commander me to shift

6:18 that allowed their commander me to shift

6:18 that allowed their commander me to shift troops back and forth easily. And he

6:19 troops back and forth easily. And he

6:19 troops back and forth easily. And he would. The Confederates, if they need to

6:21 would. The Confederates, if they need to

6:21 would. The Confederates, if they need to get a guy from one side to the other,

6:23 get a guy from one side to the other,

6:23 get a guy from one side to the other, they have to go six miles, not one or

6:25 they have to go six miles, not one or

6:25 they have to go six miles, not one or two. Okay? They have to go all the way

6:27 two. Okay? They have to go all the way

6:27 two. Okay? They have to go all the way like this. Lee's army, Roberty Lee, the

6:29 like this. Lee's army, Roberty Lee, the

6:29 like this. Lee's army, Roberty Lee, the Confederate commander, you're talking

6:30 Confederate commander, you're talking

6:30 Confederate commander, you're talking about 65 70,000 soldiers by that time

6:33 about 65 70,000 soldiers by that time

6:33 about 65 70,000 soldiers by that time are in a longer line with fewer men. And

6:35 are in a longer line with fewer men. And

6:35 are in a longer line with fewer men. And that means they never have the

6:36 that means they never have the

6:36 that means they never have the reinforcements they need. And in the

6:38 reinforcements they need. And in the

6:38 reinforcements they need. And in the end, this whole fight at famous places

6:40 end, this whole fight at famous places

6:40 end, this whole fight at famous places near here, Devil's Den, where we stand,

6:42 near here, Devil's Den, where we stand,

6:42 near here, Devil's Den, where we stand, Little Round Top, the Wheatfield, and

6:43 Little Round Top, the Wheatfield, and

6:43 Little Round Top, the Wheatfield, and Peach Orchard, 15,900 Confederates will

6:46 Peach Orchard, 15,900 Confederates will

6:46 Peach Orchard, 15,900 Confederates will attack them. And 41,000 Union soldiers

6:49 attack them. And 41,000 Union soldiers

6:49 attack them. And 41,000 Union soldiers will oppose them. Everywhere the

6:51 will oppose them. Everywhere the

6:51 will oppose them. Everywhere the Confederates go, they are facing two and

6:53 Confederates go, they are facing two and

6:53 Confederates go, they are facing two and a half times their number. And in Civil

6:55 a half times their number. And in Civil

6:56 a half times their number. And in Civil War combat, in any combat, that's not a

6:58 War combat, in any combat, that's not a

6:58 War combat, in any combat, that's not a good thing.

6:58 good thing.

6:58 good thing. >> And they have the more concentrated

6:59 >> And they have the more concentrated

6:59 >> And they have the more concentrated line. So they're they're they not only

7:01 line. So they're they're they not only

7:01 line. So they're they're they not only do they have more soldiers, they are

7:02 do they have more soldiers, they are

7:02 do they have more soldiers, they are more tightly packed together.

7:04 more tightly packed together.

7:04 more tightly packed together. >> Yes. Uh two more things. They're also on

7:06 >> Yes. Uh two more things. They're also on

7:06 >> Yes. Uh two more things. They're also on the defensive, which is great. There's

7:08 the defensive, which is great. There's

7:08 the defensive, which is great. There's actually three more things. They're on

7:09 actually three more things. They're on

7:09 actually three more things. They're on the defensive, which is an advantage.

7:10 the defensive, which is an advantage.

7:10 the defensive, which is an advantage. They have the high ground, which is an

7:12 They have the high ground, which is an

7:12 They have the high ground, which is an advantage. And finally, in the the Union

7:14 advantage. And finally, in the the Union

7:14 advantage. And finally, in the the Union has for the first time in a major

7:16 has for the first time in a major

7:16 has for the first time in a major battle, the home field advantage, the

7:18 battle, the home field advantage, the

7:18 battle, the home field advantage, the true battle fought to furthest to the

7:21 true battle fought to furthest to the

7:21 true battle fought to furthest to the north and in sports or war. That is

7:22 north and in sports or war. That is

7:22 north and in sports or war. That is really important. So, you know, you've

7:25 really important. So, you know, you've

7:25 really important. So, you know, you've got this guy Dan Sickls. Okay? He's in

7:26 got this guy Dan Sickls. Okay? He's in

7:26 got this guy Dan Sickls. Okay? He's in command of 10,000 soldiers over here.

7:28 command of 10,000 soldiers over here.

7:28 command of 10,000 soldiers over here. Uh, do you know, Justin, how we usually

7:30 Uh, do you know, Justin, how we usually

7:30 Uh, do you know, Justin, how we usually pronounce Sickle's name? Have you heard

7:31 pronounce Sickle's name? Have you heard

7:31 pronounce Sickle's name? Have you heard us? Sickles. Because Sickles is what we

7:33 us? Sickles. Because Sickles is what we

7:34 us? Sickles. Because Sickles is what we call a political general. This dude

7:35 call a political general. This dude

7:35 call a political general. This dude didn't go to West Point. Didn't have any

7:36 didn't go to West Point. Didn't have any

7:36 didn't go to West Point. Didn't have any military.

7:37 military.

7:37 military. >> I was going to ask you. He was a

7:38 >> I was going to ask you. He was a

7:38 >> I was going to ask you. He was a politician. He wasn't a soldier.

7:40 politician. He wasn't a soldier.

7:40 politician. He wasn't a soldier. >> Yeah. Brave enough guy though, most

7:41 >> Yeah. Brave enough guy though, most

7:41 >> Yeah. Brave enough guy though, most famous before the Civil War for a little

7:43 famous before the Civil War for a little

7:43 famous before the Civil War for a little incident, you know, shot and kills his

7:44 incident, you know, shot and kills his

7:44 incident, you know, shot and kills his wife's lover in front of the White

7:45 wife's lover in front of the White

7:45 wife's lover in front of the White House.

7:46 House.

7:46 House. >> Right. Who was the son of Francis Scott

7:47 >> Right. Who was the son of Francis Scott

7:47 >> Right. Who was the son of Francis Scott Keyi who wrote the uh the national

7:50 Keyi who wrote the uh the national

7:50 Keyi who wrote the uh the national anthem, right? We just saw that flag

7:52 anthem, right? We just saw that flag

7:52 anthem, right? We just saw that flag yesterday.

7:52 yesterday.

7:52 yesterday. >> Yeah. Good. And first of all, uh you

7:53 >> Yeah. Good. And first of all, uh you

7:53 >> Yeah. Good. And first of all, uh you know, good chops to Justin for knowing

7:55 know, good chops to Justin for knowing

7:55 know, good chops to Justin for knowing that, by the way. So Sickls was a brave

7:57 that, by the way. So Sickls was a brave

7:57 that, by the way. So Sickls was a brave enough guy and he would have known

7:59 enough guy and he would have known

7:59 enough guy and he would have known Little Round Top is important, but the

8:01 Little Round Top is important, but the

8:01 Little Round Top is important, but the ground to the north of Little Round Top,

8:02 ground to the north of Little Round Top,

8:02 ground to the north of Little Round Top, it's low. It's wooded. And he was

8:04 it's low. It's wooded. And he was

8:04 it's low. It's wooded. And he was afraid, and one of the good reasons come

8:06 afraid, and one of the good reasons come

8:06 afraid, and one of the good reasons come to a battlefield is that we can see the

8:07 to a battlefield is that we can see the

8:07 to a battlefield is that we can see the hill and see the intervening woodlines

8:10 hill and see the intervening woodlines

8:10 hill and see the intervening woodlines that he was scared of. He was concerned

8:11 that he was scared of. He was concerned

8:11 that he was scared of. He was concerned that the Confederates could get to that

8:12 that the Confederates could get to that

8:12 that the Confederates could get to that wood line, then that woodline, and they

8:14 wood line, then that woodline, and they

8:14 wood line, then that woodline, and they would be within 300 yards of him before

8:16 would be within 300 yards of him before

8:16 would be within 300 yards of him before he could even use his artillery. He

8:17 he could even use his artillery. He

8:17 he could even use his artillery. He didn't like that low ground there. So

8:18 didn't like that low ground there. So

8:18 didn't like that low ground there. So eventually without any orders he he

8:21 eventually without any orders he he

8:21 eventually without any orders he he decides without specific orders to push

8:23 decides without specific orders to push

8:23 decides without specific orders to push his men away from Little Round Top and

8:25 his men away from Little Round Top and

8:25 his men away from Little Round Top and out to the Peach Orchard. That's the

8:27 out to the Peach Orchard. That's the

8:27 out to the Peach Orchard. That's the point here where he could use his

8:28 point here where he could use his

8:28 point here where he could use his artillery better. That art that line he

8:31 artillery better. That art that line he

8:31 artillery better. That art that line he doesn't have enough men to man it. He's

8:32 doesn't have enough men to man it. He's

8:32 doesn't have enough men to man it. He's going to be attenuated, stretched out

8:34 going to be attenuated, stretched out

8:34 going to be attenuated, stretched out along the Amitsburg road and then

8:35 along the Amitsburg road and then

8:35 along the Amitsburg road and then bending back to this pile of rocks here.

8:37 bending back to this pile of rocks here.

8:37 bending back to this pile of rocks here. My favorite place in the whole world,

8:39 My favorite place in the whole world,

8:39 My favorite place in the whole world, Devil's Dead. Okay. So instead of being

8:41 Devil's Dead. Okay. So instead of being

8:41 Devil's Dead. Okay. So instead of being on Little Round Top, Dan Sickles has

8:43 on Little Round Top, Dan Sickles has

8:43 on Little Round Top, Dan Sickles has come out in front of it. And to his

8:45 come out in front of it. And to his

8:45 come out in front of it. And to his credit, right, he thinks he has Little

8:47 credit, right, he thinks he has Little

8:47 credit, right, he thinks he has Little Round Top covered cuz he's right out in

8:49 Round Top covered cuz he's right out in

8:49 Round Top covered cuz he's right out in front of it. Except his line ends there.

8:51 front of it. Except his line ends there.

8:51 front of it. Except his line ends there. Where do we now know the Confederates

8:53 Where do we now know the Confederates

8:53 Where do we now know the Confederates come from? A larger hill called Big

8:55 come from? A larger hill called Big

8:55 come from? A larger hill called Big Round Top. So the story people tell, and

8:58 Round Top. So the story people tell, and

8:58 Round Top. So the story people tell, and I don't necessarily agree with it, but

9:00 I don't necessarily agree with it, but

9:00 I don't necessarily agree with it, but the Confederates are going to rest on

9:01 the Confederates are going to rest on

9:01 the Confederates are going to rest on Big Round Top for 5 minutes. They're

9:03 Big Round Top for 5 minutes. They're

9:03 Big Round Top for 5 minutes. They're going to go down the other side and then

9:05 going to go down the other side and then

9:05 going to go down the other side and then they're going to occupy Little Round Top

9:07 they're going to occupy Little Round Top

9:07 they're going to occupy Little Round Top because there's nobody really up there.

9:08 because there's nobody really up there.

9:08 because there's nobody really up there. >> So they can get behind the Union.

9:09 >> So they can get behind the Union.

9:09 >> So they can get behind the Union. >> They can get behind the Union line.

9:11 >> They can get behind the Union line.

9:11 >> They can get behind the Union line. They're going to win the Battle of

9:13 They're going to win the Battle of

9:13 They're going to win the Battle of Gettysburg. And we live in a much better

9:15 Gettysburg. And we live in a much better

9:15 Gettysburg. And we live in a much better plate me. I'm sorry. God, that was a big

9:17 plate me. I'm sorry. God, that was a big

9:17 plate me. I'm sorry. God, that was a big mistake.

9:17 mistake.

9:18 mistake. >> We live in a much different place today.

9:19 >> We live in a much different place today.

9:19 >> We live in a much different place today. I don't know if I can get better for the

9:21 I don't know if I can get better for the

9:21 I don't know if I can get better for the confed that

9:23 confed that

9:23 confed that >> I'm from Illinois here. I can't believe

9:24 >> I'm from Illinois here. I can't believe

9:24 >> I'm from Illinois here. I can't believe I'm saying that. So, we're going to live

9:25 I'm saying that. So, we're going to live

9:25 I'm saying that. So, we're going to live in a much different place today because

9:27 in a much different place today because

9:27 in a much different place today because the Confederate flag is planted on

9:28 the Confederate flag is planted on

9:28 the Confederate flag is planted on Little Round Top at Gettysburg and on

9:30 Little Round Top at Gettysburg and on

9:30 Little Round Top at Gettysburg and on the moon. Then they'd be able to fire

9:32 the moon. Then they'd be able to fire

9:32 the moon. Then they'd be able to fire artillery all down that line.

9:35 artillery all down that line.

9:35 artillery all down that line. >> Yeah. They can get into the Union rear,

9:36 >> Yeah. They can get into the Union rear,

9:36 >> Yeah. They can get into the Union rear, capture the Union trains, scare the

9:38 capture the Union trains, scare the

9:38 capture the Union trains, scare the largest army in the world into a costly

9:40 largest army in the world into a costly

9:40 largest army in the world into a costly retreat away from Gettysburg. But no,

9:43 retreat away from Gettysburg. But no,

9:43 retreat away from Gettysburg. But no, that's not going to happen. First of

9:44 that's not going to happen. First of

9:44 that's not going to happen. First of all, I don't think it would have anyway.

9:45 all, I don't think it would have anyway.

9:46 all, I don't think it would have anyway. But it wouldn't have because a guy who

9:47 But it wouldn't have because a guy who

9:47 But it wouldn't have because a guy who has a probably the most iconic Civil War

9:49 has a probably the most iconic Civil War

9:49 has a probably the most iconic Civil War statue up there named Governor Kemellmel

9:50 statue up there named Governor Kemellmel

9:50 statue up there named Governor Kemellmel Warren, Warren, an engineer, knows

9:53 Warren, Warren, an engineer, knows

9:53 Warren, Warren, an engineer, knows topography and was not going to leave

9:55 topography and was not going to leave

9:55 topography and was not going to leave that hill unoccupied. And through his

9:56 that hill unoccupied. And through his

9:56 that hill unoccupied. And through his efforts, he's able to get Union soldiers

9:59 efforts, he's able to get Union soldiers

9:59 efforts, he's able to get Union soldiers over to that side of the hill on the

10:00 over to that side of the hill on the

10:00 over to that side of the hill on the south side of the hill, 5 minutes before

10:02 south side of the hill, 5 minutes before

10:02 south side of the hill, 5 minutes before the Southerners defend that hill and try

10:05 the Southerners defend that hill and try

10:05 the Southerners defend that hill and try to attack it. And that sets up the

10:06 to attack it. And that sets up the

10:06 to attack it. And that sets up the famous moment, the attack and defense of

10:08 famous moment, the attack and defense of

10:08 famous moment, the attack and defense of Little Roundtop, which is a big part of

10:10 Little Roundtop, which is a big part of

10:10 Little Roundtop, which is a big part of the Gettysburg movie. That's the part

10:11 the Gettysburg movie. That's the part

10:12 the Gettysburg movie. That's the part that stuck in my mind the most from

10:13 that stuck in my mind the most from

10:13 that stuck in my mind the most from seeing that movie and learning in junior

10:15 seeing that movie and learning in junior

10:15 seeing that movie and learning in junior high and stuff like that.

10:16 high and stuff like that.

10:16 high and stuff like that. >> It plays out in real time. Now, the

10:17 >> It plays out in real time. Now, the

10:17 >> It plays out in real time. Now, the Little Round Top in the movie was filmed

10:19 Little Round Top in the movie was filmed

10:19 Little Round Top in the movie was filmed a few miles away, but they did film some

10:21 a few miles away, but they did film some

10:21 a few miles away, but they did film some of the big round top scenes in the movie

10:22 of the big round top scenes in the movie

10:22 of the big round top scenes in the movie on Little Roundtop. They had to cover up

10:24 on Little Roundtop. They had to cover up

10:24 on Little Roundtop. They had to cover up the monuments with brush and things like

10:26 the monuments with brush and things like

10:26 the monuments with brush and things like that. Super cool. Now, uh um just real

10:29 that. Super cool. Now, uh um just real

10:29 that. Super cool. Now, uh um just real quick, that fight that produces 1,200

10:32 quick, that fight that produces 1,200

10:32 quick, that fight that produces 1,200 casualties is happening at the same time

10:34 casualties is happening at the same time

10:34 casualties is happening at the same time as this fight that produces 1,800

10:36 as this fight that produces 1,800

10:36 as this fight that produces 1,800 casualties. Casualties being killed,

10:38 casualties. Casualties being killed,

10:38 casualties. Casualties being killed, wounded, captured, and missing. So

10:39 wounded, captured, and missing. So

10:39 wounded, captured, and missing. So actually more people were were

10:42 actually more people were were

10:42 actually more people were were casualties here than on the the famous

10:44 casualties here than on the the famous

10:44 casualties here than on the the famous fight on the side of Little Roundtop.

10:46 fight on the side of Little Roundtop.

10:46 fight on the side of Little Roundtop. But this is also sort of a fight for

10:48 But this is also sort of a fight for

10:48 But this is also sort of a fight for Little Roundtop, right? Because there

10:49 Little Roundtop, right? Because there

10:49 Little Roundtop, right? Because there the Confederates are coming from this

10:50 the Confederates are coming from this

10:50 the Confederates are coming from this way. Correct. So if you look off in the

10:52 way. Correct. So if you look off in the

10:52 way. Correct. So if you look off in the distance above that car that just went

10:54 distance above that car that just went

10:54 distance above that car that just went or SUV, the most distant tree line you

10:56 or SUV, the most distant tree line you

10:56 or SUV, the most distant tree line you see is Seminary or Warfield Ridge.

10:58 see is Seminary or Warfield Ridge.

10:58 see is Seminary or Warfield Ridge. That's the Confederate outer line here.

11:01 That's the Confederate outer line here.

11:01 That's the Confederate outer line here. And the guys on the far right there had

11:03 And the guys on the far right there had

11:03 And the guys on the far right there had to march the longest to get here.

11:04 to march the longest to get here.

11:04 to march the longest to get here. They're Alamians assisted by Texans,

11:07 They're Alamians assisted by Texans,

11:07 They're Alamians assisted by Texans, Georgians, and Arcanons. and they're

11:08 Georgians, and Arcanons. and they're

11:08 Georgians, and Arcanons. and they're going to launch a general assault in

11:10 going to launch a general assault in

11:10 going to launch a general assault in this area. Some of whom go up big round

11:12 this area. Some of whom go up big round

11:12 this area. Some of whom go up big round top toward Little Round Top and many of

11:14 top toward Little Round Top and many of

11:14 top toward Little Round Top and many of whom attack Devil's Den both headon

11:17 whom attack Devil's Den both headon

11:17 whom attack Devil's Den both headon where that tree is and through this

11:19 where that tree is and through this

11:19 where that tree is and through this gully here called the slaughter pen.

11:21 gully here called the slaughter pen.

11:21 gully here called the slaughter pen. >> The slaughter pen. So the slaughter pen

11:24 >> The slaughter pen. So the slaughter pen

11:24 >> The slaughter pen. So the slaughter pen is this here in front of Devil's Den.

11:26 is this here in front of Devil's Den.

11:26 is this here in front of Devil's Den. Well, between Devil's Den and Little

11:28 Well, between Devil's Den and Little

11:28 Well, between Devil's Den and Little Round Top. Okay,

11:29 Round Top. Okay,

11:29 Round Top. Okay, >> correct. So, a few other features here.

11:31 >> correct. So, a few other features here.

11:31 >> correct. So, a few other features here. Devil's Den and maybe we'll talk more

11:32 Devil's Den and maybe we'll talk more

11:32 Devil's Den and maybe we'll talk more about what Devil's Den actually is, but

11:34 about what Devil's Den actually is, but

11:34 about what Devil's Den actually is, but people come to these rocks, they see a

11:35 people come to these rocks, they see a

11:35 people come to these rocks, they see a sign, and they figure, "Okay, I've been

11:37 sign, and they figure, "Okay, I've been

11:37 sign, and they figure, "Okay, I've been to Devil's Den. These are the rocks of

11:38 to Devil's Den. These are the rocks of

11:38 to Devil's Den. These are the rocks of Devil's Denon. Yes, they were here

11:39 Devil's Denon. Yes, they were here

11:40 Devil's Denon. Yes, they were here during the battle. Uh guides get all

11:41 during the battle. Uh guides get all

11:42 during the battle. Uh guides get all sorts of good questions. Were these

11:43 sorts of good questions. Were these

11:43 sorts of good questions. Were these rocks here in the battle? Yes. Uh where

11:44 rocks here in the battle? Yes. Uh where

11:44 rocks here in the battle? Yes. Uh where do they put the monuments in the winter?

11:46 do they put the monuments in the winter?

11:46 do they put the monuments in the winter? They don't. Why didn't they hide behind

11:47 They don't. Why didn't they hide behind

11:47 They don't. Why didn't they hide behind the monuments? Are there bullet holes in

11:49 the monuments? Are there bullet holes in

11:49 the monuments? Are there bullet holes in the monuments? Why are all battles

11:50 the monuments? Why are all battles

11:50 the monuments? Why are all battles fought in national parks? U you know, so

11:52 fought in national parks? U you know, so

11:52 fought in national parks? U you know, so you do get them all uh as a tour guide

11:55 you do get them all uh as a tour guide

11:55 you do get them all uh as a tour guide for sure. But you know, you have all

11:57 for sure. But you know, you have all

11:57 for sure. But you know, you have all these stories of this place. So if

11:59 these stories of this place. So if

11:59 these stories of this place. So if you're a game man, let's check more of

12:00 you're a game man, let's check more of

12:00 you're a game man, let's check more of it out.

12:01 it out.

12:01 it out. >> Yeah. Awesome. Okay, let's go over

12:02 >> Yeah. Awesome. Okay, let's go over

12:02 >> Yeah. Awesome. Okay, let's go over there. Before we say anything else, I

12:04 there. Before we say anything else, I

12:04 there. Before we say anything else, I should mention

12:06 should mention

12:06 should mention that you have a lot of different jobs.

12:08 that you have a lot of different jobs.

12:08 that you have a lot of different jobs. You've got the Gary Adelman's Civil War

12:11 You've got the Gary Adelman's Civil War

12:11 You've got the Gary Adelman's Civil War page on Facebook. You're doing work with

12:13 page on Facebook. You're doing work with

12:13 page on Facebook. You're doing work with the American Battlefield Trust. You are

12:15 the American Battlefield Trust. You are

12:15 the American Battlefield Trust. You are still a licensed battlefield guide. You

12:17 still a licensed battlefield guide. You

12:17 still a licensed battlefield guide. You have to be licensed to to give tours at

12:19 have to be licensed to to give tours at

12:19 have to be licensed to to give tours at all on the battlefield, but you don't do

12:20 all on the battlefield, but you don't do

12:20 all on the battlefield, but you don't do this on a daily basis. So, we're getting

12:22 this on a daily basis. So, we're getting

12:22 this on a daily basis. So, we're getting a special treat here.

12:23 a special treat here.

12:23 a special treat here. >> Yeah. You know, one of the good things,

12:25 >> Yeah. You know, one of the good things,

12:25 >> Yeah. You know, one of the good things, and Justin knows this as a super famous

12:27 and Justin knows this as a super famous

12:27 and Justin knows this as a super famous personality, like you know, your life

12:28 personality, like you know, your life

12:28 personality, like you know, your life changes. Video changes your life. mostly

12:30 changes. Video changes your life. mostly

12:30 changes. Video changes your life. mostly in good ways, but in other ways like,

12:32 in good ways, but in other ways like,

12:32 in good ways, but in other ways like, you know, nobody's everybody's cup of

12:34 you know, nobody's everybody's cup of

12:34 you know, nobody's everybody's cup of tea, like but but it does make you

12:35 tea, like but but it does make you

12:35 tea, like but but it does make you busier. And it's come to the point where

12:37 busier. And it's come to the point where

12:37 busier. And it's come to the point where I have the best full-time job in the

12:38 I have the best full-time job in the

12:38 I have the best full-time job in the world at the American Battlefield Trust.

12:40 world at the American Battlefield Trust.

12:40 world at the American Battlefield Trust. And we like almost like my personal Gary

12:43 And we like almost like my personal Gary

12:43 And we like almost like my personal Gary Adelman Civil War page and the tours I

12:45 Adelman Civil War page and the tours I

12:45 Adelman Civil War page and the tours I give are all basically

12:46 give are all basically

12:46 give are all basically >> yeah quasi or fully American Battlefield

12:49 >> yeah quasi or fully American Battlefield

12:49 >> yeah quasi or fully American Battlefield Trust things and that takes up all my

12:50 Trust things and that takes up all my

12:50 Trust things and that takes up all my time

12:50 time

12:50 time >> and they're all online now because

12:51 >> and they're all online now because

12:52 >> and they're all online now because you're you're too in demand to usually

12:53 you're you're too in demand to usually

12:53 you're you're too in demand to usually go on the ground with lots of groups or

12:55 go on the ground with lots of groups or

12:55 go on the ground with lots of groups or to be hired by groups. So, I just want

12:57 to be hired by groups. So, I just want

12:57 to be hired by groups. So, I just want to emphasize we're getting a special

12:58 to emphasize we're getting a special

12:58 to emphasize we're getting a special treat here and we really appreciate it.

13:00 treat here and we really appreciate it.

13:00 treat here and we really appreciate it. Okay.

13:00 Okay.

13:00 Okay. >> I am unbookable.

13:02 >> I am unbookable.

13:02 >> I am unbookable. >> And you have written many books about

13:03 >> And you have written many books about

13:03 >> And you have written many books about this, by the way, too. So, you're the

13:05 this, by the way, too. So, you're the

13:05 this, by the way, too. So, you're the expert here. Okay. So, now we're going

13:06 expert here. Okay. So, now we're going

13:06 expert here. Okay. So, now we're going to I'm going to shut up and we're going

13:07 to I'm going to shut up and we're going

13:07 to I'm going to shut up and we're going to listen to what the expert has to say.

13:08 to listen to what the expert has to say.

13:08 to listen to what the expert has to say. >> Having dispensed with all that stuff.

13:10 >> Having dispensed with all that stuff.

13:10 >> Having dispensed with all that stuff. Let's talk about this. So, I mentioned

13:12 Let's talk about this. So, I mentioned

13:12 Let's talk about this. So, I mentioned at the outset that I'm obsessed with

13:14 at the outset that I'm obsessed with

13:14 at the outset that I'm obsessed with civil photography, specifically at

13:15 civil photography, specifically at

13:15 civil photography, specifically at Gettysburg, but at all places. And one

13:17 Gettysburg, but at all places. And one

13:17 Gettysburg, but at all places. And one thing that's convenient for Gettysburg

13:19 thing that's convenient for Gettysburg

13:19 thing that's convenient for Gettysburg is not only did a northern photographer,

13:21 is not only did a northern photographer,

13:21 is not only did a northern photographer, most civil war photos were taken by

13:23 most civil war photos were taken by

13:23 most civil war photos were taken by northern photographers and they could

13:25 northern photographers and they could

13:25 northern photographers and they could only access battlefields where the Union

13:27 only access battlefields where the Union

13:27 only access battlefields where the Union won, which didn't happen a whole lot in

13:28 won, which didn't happen a whole lot in

13:28 won, which didn't happen a whole lot in the early parts of the war. Most of

13:30 the early parts of the war. Most of

13:30 the early parts of the war. Most of these photos are taken in the east. So

13:31 these photos are taken in the east. So

13:31 these photos are taken in the east. So then you have this sort of disparity of

13:34 then you have this sort of disparity of

13:34 then you have this sort of disparity of photos. But in any case, they got here

13:36 photos. But in any case, they got here

13:36 photos. But in any case, they got here to Gettysburg in time before all the

13:38 to Gettysburg in time before all the

13:38 to Gettysburg in time before all the dead were buried. And the dead who

13:39 dead were buried. And the dead who

13:39 dead were buried. And the dead who weren't buried were largely Confederate

13:41 weren't buried were largely Confederate

13:41 weren't buried were largely Confederate soldiers. Okay? And while there are

13:43 soldiers. Okay? And while there are

13:43 soldiers. Okay? And while there are photos taken here at Devil's Den,

13:45 photos taken here at Devil's Den,

13:45 photos taken here at Devil's Den, because we have rocks that allowed a

13:46 because we have rocks that allowed a

13:46 because we have rocks that allowed a historian, William Frazzanito, long ago

13:49 historian, William Frazzanito, long ago

13:49 historian, William Frazzanito, long ago to to find the locations of these

13:50 to to find the locations of these

13:50 to to find the locations of these photos, we know where the dead lay

13:52 photos, we know where the dead lay

13:52 photos, we know where the dead lay there, up there, um, you know, along

13:55 there, up there, um, you know, along

13:55 there, up there, um, you know, along that way in those woods over there.

13:56 that way in those woods over there.

13:56 that way in those woods over there. >> Unlike the middle of a field or

13:58 >> Unlike the middle of a field or

13:58 >> Unlike the middle of a field or something, it's impossible to line up.

14:00 something, it's impossible to line up.

14:00 something, it's impossible to line up. The rocks don't change at all. And let's

14:01 The rocks don't change at all. And let's

14:01 The rocks don't change at all. And let's show this. Even amidst all these dead,

14:03 show this. Even amidst all these dead,

14:03 show this. Even amidst all these dead, there was a sketch artist here named

14:04 there was a sketch artist here named

14:04 there was a sketch artist here named Alfred Wad. Okay. Wad is up here and

14:07 Alfred Wad. Okay. Wad is up here and

14:07 Alfred Wad. Okay. Wad is up here and he's apparently friends with the

14:08 he's apparently friends with the

14:08 he's apparently friends with the photographer Alexander Gardner. And Wad

14:10 photographer Alexander Gardner. And Wad

14:10 photographer Alexander Gardner. And Wad sat on this rock right here.

14:13 sat on this rock right here.

14:13 sat on this rock right here. And he didn't only sit here. He put up

14:16 And he didn't only sit here. He put up

14:16 And he didn't only sit here. He put up one knee. He put a sketch pad right

14:18 one knee. He put a sketch pad right

14:18 one knee. He put a sketch pad right here. And he didn't look at the camera.

14:21 here. And he didn't look at the camera.

14:21 here. And he didn't look at the camera. He looked toward Little Roundtop. And

14:23 He looked toward Little Roundtop. And

14:23 He looked toward Little Roundtop. And then he took his eyeballs and moved them

14:24 then he took his eyeballs and moved them

14:24 then he took his eyeballs and moved them up the valley of death. Now, if if we're

14:27 up the valley of death. Now, if if we're

14:27 up the valley of death. Now, if if we're doing this about right, there should be

14:29 doing this about right, there should be

14:29 doing this about right, there should be a a crack in the boulders like right

14:31 a a crack in the boulders like right

14:31 a a crack in the boulders like right over my head there.

14:32 over my head there.

14:32 over my head there. >> And this is one thing that, you know,

14:35 >> And this is one thing that, you know,

14:35 >> And this is one thing that, you know, >> I might call time travel. Here we are in

14:37 >> I might call time travel. Here we are in

14:37 >> I might call time travel. Here we are in a battlefield sitting in 3D and time is

14:39 a battlefield sitting in 3D and time is

14:39 a battlefield sitting in 3D and time is passing over this place. Let's challenge

14:41 passing over this place. Let's challenge

14:41 passing over this place. Let's challenge Justin to edit this thing properly so it

14:44 Justin to edit this thing properly so it

14:44 Justin to edit this thing properly so it looked like a perfect then and now. Like

14:46 looked like a perfect then and now. Like

14:46 looked like a perfect then and now. Like a movie scene but a real one.

14:48 a movie scene but a real one.

14:48 a movie scene but a real one. >> That's my favorite thing to do at

14:49 >> That's my favorite thing to do at

14:49 >> That's my favorite thing to do at Disneyland or at Gettysburg. You're the

14:52 Disneyland or at Gettysburg. You're the

14:52 Disneyland or at Gettysburg. You're the master of that at Gettysburg.

14:53 master of that at Gettysburg.

14:53 master of that at Gettysburg. >> And I and I learned it from William A.

14:55 >> And I and I learned it from William A.

14:55 >> And I and I learned it from William A. Frrazenito without whom I would never

14:57 Frrazenito without whom I would never

14:57 Frrazenito without whom I would never live here. I wouldn't be on this video.

14:59 live here. I wouldn't be on this video.

14:59 live here. I wouldn't be on this video. My kids would not exist. Would I have

15:00 My kids would not exist. Would I have

15:00 My kids would not exist. Would I have never met my wife on the town squareing

15:03 never met my wife on the town squareing

15:03 never met my wife on the town squareing not for him? So, what we're doing is

15:05 not for him? So, what we're doing is

15:05 not for him? So, what we're doing is sort of crossing uh the main rocks of

15:07 sort of crossing uh the main rocks of

15:07 sort of crossing uh the main rocks of Devil's Den. These are volcanic

15:08 Devil's Den. These are volcanic

15:08 Devil's Den. These are volcanic boulders. Um they are not glacial.

15:10 boulders. Um they are not glacial.

15:10 boulders. Um they are not glacial. They're much older. 201.2

15:13 They're much older. 201.2

15:13 They're much older. 201.2 million years old is the best estimate

15:15 million years old is the best estimate

15:15 million years old is the best estimate of how old these are.

15:16 of how old these are.

15:16 of how old these are. >> The fact that you even have knowledge of

15:18 >> The fact that you even have knowledge of

15:18 >> The fact that you even have knowledge of the rocks.

15:18 the rocks.

15:18 the rocks. >> Hold on. Wait. I'm much worse than that.

15:20 >> Hold on. Wait. I'm much worse than that.

15:20 >> Hold on. Wait. I'm much worse than that. The 3-day battle of Gettysburg

15:21 The 3-day battle of Gettysburg

15:22 The 3-day battle of Gettysburg represents 129 trillionth the life of

15:24 represents 129 trillionth the life of

15:24 represents 129 trillionth the life of the rocks.

15:26 the rocks. >> Okay. I like that.

15:26 >> Okay. I like that.

15:26 >> Okay. I like that. >> Actually, you know what? Let's pause

15:28 >> Actually, you know what? Let's pause

15:28 >> Actually, you know what? Let's pause here for a second cuz I didn't even tell

15:29 here for a second cuz I didn't even tell

15:29 here for a second cuz I didn't even tell you this earlier. Okay. We just walked

15:31 you this earlier. Okay. We just walked

15:31 you this earlier. Okay. We just walked by a sign that says Devil's Den on it.

15:33 by a sign that says Devil's Den on it.

15:33 by a sign that says Devil's Den on it. Let's walk over here.

15:34 Let's walk over here.

15:34 Let's walk over here. >> Um, so it says Devil's Den. This sign

15:37 >> Um, so it says Devil's Den. This sign

15:37 >> Um, so it says Devil's Den. This sign was put up in 1900. Big deal. Okay. But

15:39 was put up in 1900. Big deal. Okay. But

15:39 was put up in 1900. Big deal. Okay. But there's a road behind you. You've

15:41 there's a road behind you. You've

15:41 there's a road behind you. You've already seen it. There was put in in

15:42 already seen it. There was put in in

15:42 already seen it. There was put in in 1897. Okay. This is interesting to me.

15:45 1897. Okay. This is interesting to me.

15:45 1897. Okay. This is interesting to me. You have to study a battlefield. Not

15:47 You have to study a battlefield. Not

15:47 You have to study a battlefield. Not only at the time in 1863 in this case,

15:50 only at the time in 1863 in this case,

15:50 only at the time in 1863 in this case, but later as well. Let me explain why.

15:52 but later as well. Let me explain why.

15:52 but later as well. Let me explain why. In 1904, a guy named William H. Hot.

15:54 Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hotton came back here. He's a

15:55 Hotton came back here. He's a

15:55 Hotton came back here. He's a Confederate. He's a Georgian. And he

15:57 Confederate. He's a Georgian. And he

15:57 Confederate. He's a Georgian. And he came here, visited, and wrote back to

15:59 came here, visited, and wrote back to

15:59 came here, visited, and wrote back to his hometown newspaper and said, "I went

16:01 his hometown newspaper and said, "I went

16:01 his hometown newspaper and said, "I went to Gettysburg. I'm not crazy about the

16:03 to Gettysburg. I'm not crazy about the

16:03 to Gettysburg. I'm not crazy about the fact that all the Confederate monuments

16:04 fact that all the Confederate monuments

16:04 fact that all the Confederate monuments are where the action isn't.

16:06 are where the action isn't.

16:06 are where the action isn't. >> The Confederates uh you know, first of

16:08 >> The Confederates uh you know, first of

16:08 >> The Confederates uh you know, first of all, you don't rush to put up monuments

16:10 all, you don't rush to put up monuments

16:10 all, you don't rush to put up monuments where you lose, right?

16:11 where you lose, right?

16:11 where you lose, right? >> You usually put them up where you won in

16:13 >> You usually put them up where you won in

16:13 >> You usually put them up where you won in the South is where most Confederate

16:14 the South is where most Confederate

16:14 the South is where most Confederate monuments are or were. But by the way,

16:17 monuments are or were. But by the way,

16:17 monuments are or were. But by the way, any of them that are coming down, none

16:19 any of them that are coming down, none

16:19 any of them that are coming down, none of them have been removed from

16:19 of them have been removed from

16:20 of them have been removed from battlefields. The Confederate monuments

16:21 battlefields. The Confederate monuments

16:21 battlefields. The Confederate monuments you see being taken away and whatnot are

16:23 you see being taken away and whatnot are

16:23 you see being taken away and whatnot are in town squares and places where they

16:24 in town squares and places where they

16:24 in town squares and places where they lack the context of say a battlefield.

16:26 lack the context of say a battlefield.

16:26 lack the context of say a battlefield. In any case, Hoden comes here and

16:28 In any case, Hoden comes here and

16:28 In any case, Hoden comes here and complains about the lack of Confederate

16:30 complains about the lack of Confederate

16:30 complains about the lack of Confederate monumentation near the fighting and also

16:32 monumentation near the fighting and also

16:32 monumentation near the fighting and also said, "I visited the spot where my

16:33 said, "I visited the spot where my

16:33 said, "I visited the spot where my regiment, the Second Georgia, actually

16:35 regiment, the Second Georgia, actually

16:35 regiment, the Second Georgia, actually fought." And he said, "I looked up at

16:37 fought." And he said, "I looked up at

16:37 fought." And he said, "I looked up at the rocks where a line of bluecoated

16:39 the rocks where a line of bluecoated

16:39 the rocks where a line of bluecoated regulars were shooting directly down

16:41 regulars were shooting directly down

16:41 regulars were shooting directly down upon us." He said that I was charging

16:43 upon us." He said that I was charging

16:43 upon us." He said that I was charging with the gallant muse and Sergeant Maize

16:45 with the gallant muse and Sergeant Maize

16:45 with the gallant muse and Sergeant Maize and he said that while they were

16:46 and he said that while they were

16:46 and he said that while they were charging through this gully, that muse

16:48 charging through this gully, that muse

16:48 charging through this gully, that muse slept fell to his left, striking his

16:51 slept fell to his left, striking his

16:51 slept fell to his left, striking his feet. And here's the good part. He said

16:53 feet. And here's the good part. He said

16:53 feet. And here's the good part. He said that the place where that happened is

16:55 that the place where that happened is

16:55 that the place where that happened is where the government avenue now runs

16:56 where the government avenue now runs

16:56 where the government avenue now runs over the place just a few steps away

16:58 over the place just a few steps away

16:58 over the place just a few steps away from a sign that says Devil's Den on it.

17:00 from a sign that says Devil's Den on it.

17:00 from a sign that says Devil's Den on it. >> Wow.

17:01 >> Wow.

17:01 >> Wow. >> So stick with me everybody here at

17:02 >> So stick with me everybody here at

17:02 >> So stick with me everybody here at Random Land. Here you got a guy who

17:04 Random Land. Here you got a guy who

17:04 Random Land. Here you got a guy who fought in the battle in 1863 and then

17:07 fought in the battle in 1863 and then

17:07 fought in the battle in 1863 and then came back in 1904 and uses an 1897 road

17:10 came back in 1904 and uses an 1897 road

17:10 came back in 1904 and uses an 1897 road and a 1900 sign to tell us in 2025 what

17:14 and a 1900 sign to tell us in 2025 what

17:14 and a 1900 sign to tell us in 2025 what happened in 1863.

17:16 happened in 1863.

17:16 happened in 1863. Wow. This is how research really pays

17:18 Wow. This is how research really pays

17:18 Wow. This is how research really pays off. Sometimes historians fill their

17:20 off. Sometimes historians fill their

17:20 off. Sometimes historians fill their brains with useless information, but in

17:22 brains with useless information, but in

17:22 brains with useless information, but in this case, I have learned that the

17:24 this case, I have learned that the

17:24 this case, I have learned that the second Georgia was more in this

17:25 second Georgia was more in this

17:25 second Georgia was more in this direction than I would have expected.

17:27 direction than I would have expected.

17:27 direction than I would have expected. That's forced me to deal with that

17:29 That's forced me to deal with that

17:29 That's forced me to deal with that interpretation. And by the way, I

17:30 interpretation. And by the way, I

17:30 interpretation. And by the way, I checked the records and a guy named Muse

17:32 checked the records and a guy named Muse

17:32 checked the records and a guy named Muse and a guy named Maize were shot in the

17:34 and a guy named Maize were shot in the

17:34 and a guy named Maize were shot in the head and killed at Gettysburg. So, this

17:36 head and killed at Gettysburg. So, this

17:36 head and killed at Gettysburg. So, this guy's telling a pretty true account, at

17:38 guy's telling a pretty true account, at

17:38 guy's telling a pretty true account, at least in terms of essentials.

17:40 least in terms of essentials.

17:40 least in terms of essentials. >> That's awesome. Pretty cool stuff.

17:41 >> That's awesome. Pretty cool stuff.

17:41 >> That's awesome. Pretty cool stuff. >> Okay, so I know the Confederates are

17:43 >> Okay, so I know the Confederates are

17:43 >> Okay, so I know the Confederates are coming from back here. That's where

17:44 coming from back here. That's where

17:44 coming from back here. That's where their main uh battle line is over here.

17:47 their main uh battle line is over here.

17:47 their main uh battle line is over here. They're they're coming across here. But

17:49 They're they're coming across here. But

17:49 They're they're coming across here. But when they start fighting at Devil's Den,

17:51 when they start fighting at Devil's Den,

17:51 when they start fighting at Devil's Den, is the Union up on top of these rocks?

17:53 is the Union up on top of these rocks?

17:53 is the Union up on top of these rocks? Are they behind the rocks? Where's the

17:54 Are they behind the rocks? Where's the

17:54 Are they behind the rocks? Where's the Union at the beginning of the Devil's

17:56 Union at the beginning of the Devil's

17:56 Union at the beginning of the Devil's Den fight?

17:57 Den fight?

17:57 Den fight? >> So, first of all, like this this way

17:58 >> So, first of all, like this this way

17:58 >> So, first of all, like this this way that they fought seems a little insane,

18:01 that they fought seems a little insane,

18:01 that they fought seems a little insane, but trust me, the the people, they

18:03 but trust me, the the people, they

18:03 but trust me, the the people, they didn't have a death wish. You know, they

18:05 didn't have a death wish. You know, they

18:05 didn't have a death wish. You know, they were using the most modern tactics they

18:06 were using the most modern tactics they

18:06 were using the most modern tactics they had available to them. And the fail the

18:08 had available to them. And the fail the

18:08 had available to them. And the fail the the Civil War failed to produce some

18:09 the Civil War failed to produce some

18:09 the Civil War failed to produce some magical way, you're thinking of it, to

18:11 magical way, you're thinking of it, to

18:11 magical way, you're thinking of it, to to avoid frontal assaults. Sometimes

18:14 to avoid frontal assaults. Sometimes

18:14 to avoid frontal assaults. Sometimes they just blaze away at each other. I'll

18:16 they just blaze away at each other. I'll

18:16 they just blaze away at each other. I'll be glad on another video to get into

18:17 be glad on another video to get into

18:18 be glad on another video to get into this because people we always think

18:19 this because people we always think

18:19 this because people we always think we're smarter than the past just like

18:20 we're smarter than the past just like

18:20 we're smarter than the past just like our kids think they're smarter than us.

18:22 our kids think they're smarter than us.

18:22 our kids think they're smarter than us. It's we can't help it. Okay. In any

18:24 It's we can't help it. Okay. In any

18:24 It's we can't help it. Okay. In any case, the Union is trying to array in

18:25 case, the Union is trying to array in

18:26 case, the Union is trying to array in lines. So, they are facing the

18:27 lines. So, they are facing the

18:27 lines. So, they are facing the Confederates on top of these rocks on

18:29 Confederates on top of these rocks on

18:29 Confederates on top of these rocks on the other side. Okay. But one of the

18:31 the other side. Okay. But one of the

18:31 the other side. Okay. But one of the commanders um was concerned uh that the

18:34 commanders um was concerned uh that the

18:34 commanders um was concerned uh that the Confederates would simply come up

18:36 Confederates would simply come up

18:36 Confederates would simply come up through this gully now known as the

18:37 through this gully now known as the

18:37 through this gully now known as the slaughter pen. Okay, which they did.

18:39 slaughter pen. Okay, which they did.

18:39 slaughter pen. Okay, which they did. >> Which was my next question. Is that the

18:41 >> Which was my next question. Is that the

18:41 >> Which was my next question. Is that the way they got here? So they convinced

18:43 way they got here? So they convinced

18:43 way they got here? So they convinced they they asked this regiment, this

18:44 they they asked this regiment, this

18:44 they they asked this regiment, this battery commander said, "Hey man, men

18:46 battery commander said, "Hey man, men

18:46 battery commander said, "Hey man, men men from Maine, the fourth main in this

18:47 men from Maine, the fourth main in this

18:47 men from Maine, the fourth main in this case, could you go and block the

18:49 case, could you go and block the

18:49 case, could you go and block the valley?" And they're like, "No, we like

18:50 valley?" And they're like, "No, we like

18:50 valley?" And they're like, "No, we like it up top, the high ground." So then the

18:52 it up top, the high ground." So then the

18:52 it up top, the high ground." So then the battery commander went to the com the

18:54 battery commander went to the com the

18:54 battery commander went to the com the brigade commander, sorry, regiments,

18:56 brigade commander, sorry, regiments,

18:56 brigade commander, sorry, regiments, brigades, division, core, army. Thank

18:58 brigades, division, core, army. Thank

18:58 brigades, division, core, army. Thank you. Okay? You know, so they went to the

19:00 you. Okay? You know, so they went to the

19:00 you. Okay? You know, so they went to the brigade commander and the brigade

19:02 brigade commander and the brigade

19:02 brigade commander and the brigade commander ordered the fourth main to

19:04 commander ordered the fourth main to

19:04 commander ordered the fourth main to block the gully up here. Okay? So that

19:05 block the gully up here. Okay? So that

19:05 block the gully up here. Okay? So that when the Confederates showed up here,

19:07 when the Confederates showed up here,

19:07 when the Confederates showed up here, they're confronting a main force. But a

19:09 they're confronting a main force. But a

19:09 they're confronting a main force. But a lot more Confederates showed up than the

19:11 lot more Confederates showed up than the

19:11 lot more Confederates showed up than the main men actually had.

19:12 main men actually had.

19:12 main men actually had. >> Gotcha.

19:12 >> Gotcha.

19:12 >> Gotcha. >> Make sense?

19:13 >> Make sense?

19:13 >> Make sense? >> So they were driven back up onto these

19:14 >> So they were driven back up onto these

19:14 >> So they were driven back up onto these rocks.

19:15 rocks.

19:15 rocks. >> Well, actually sort of like the main men

19:16 >> Well, actually sort of like the main men

19:16 >> Well, actually sort of like the main men had been down here and then they uh you

19:19 had been down here and then they uh you

19:19 had been down here and then they uh you know uh pulled back and they see

19:21 know uh pulled back and they see

19:21 know uh pulled back and they see Confederates up above them and that is

19:23 Confederates up above them and that is

19:23 Confederates up above them and that is not a cool place to be. So they pulled

19:26 not a cool place to be. So they pulled

19:26 not a cool place to be. So they pulled back, charged to the top, recaptured the

19:28 back, charged to the top, recaptured the

19:28 back, charged to the top, recaptured the crest, got help from some from

19:30 crest, got help from some from

19:30 crest, got help from some from Pennsylvania soldiers and captured the

19:32 Pennsylvania soldiers and captured the

19:32 Pennsylvania soldiers and captured the crest. But 1300 more Confederates are

19:35 crest. But 1300 more Confederates are

19:35 crest. But 1300 more Confederates are stacked up under Henry L. Benning, after

19:37 stacked up under Henry L. Benning, after

19:37 stacked up under Henry L. Benning, after whom Fort Benning, at least used to be

19:38 whom Fort Benning, at least used to be

19:38 whom Fort Benning, at least used to be named, at least for now. Um, and they're

19:41 named, at least for now. Um, and they're

19:41 named, at least for now. Um, and they're going to come up and tip the scales for

19:43 going to come up and tip the scales for

19:43 going to come up and tip the scales for the Confederates. Okay. So, that's when

19:45 the Confederates. Okay. So, that's when

19:45 the Confederates. Okay. So, that's when Devil's Den is captured. That is when

19:47 Devil's Den is captured. That is when

19:48 Devil's Den is captured. That is when Little Round Top is really peing in

19:50 Little Round Top is really peing in

19:50 Little Round Top is really peing in terms of intensity where they could use

19:52 terms of intensity where they could use

19:52 terms of intensity where they could use more Confederate help, but none of the

19:54 more Confederate help, but none of the

19:54 more Confederate help, but none of the Confederates who fought here ultimately

19:56 Confederates who fought here ultimately

19:56 Confederates who fought here ultimately charged up Little Round Top.

19:57 charged up Little Round Top.

19:57 charged up Little Round Top. >> Right. Okay. So, so we we're we're

19:59 >> Right. Okay. So, so we we're we're

19:59 >> Right. Okay. So, so we we're we're starting with Union troops here. The

20:01 starting with Union troops here. The

20:01 starting with Union troops here. The Confederates come and take this hill.

20:02 Confederates come and take this hill.

20:02 Confederates come and take this hill. The Union is trying to fight back. The

20:04 The Union is trying to fight back. The

20:04 The Union is trying to fight back. The Confederates take it in as hotly

20:05 Confederates take it in as hotly

20:05 Confederates take it in as hotly contested ground all so that they can go

20:08 contested ground all so that they can go

20:08 contested ground all so that they can go up this way and flank the Union Army.

20:11 up this way and flank the Union Army.

20:11 up this way and flank the Union Army. >> Yeah, man. And look, as as she walks

20:13 >> Yeah, man. And look, as as she walks

20:13 >> Yeah, man. And look, as as she walks away, we have a Gettysburg celebrity

20:14 away, we have a Gettysburg celebrity

20:14 away, we have a Gettysburg celebrity there. That's Dr. Carol Rearen who

20:16 there. That's Dr. Carol Rearen who

20:16 there. That's Dr. Carol Rearen who writes all about Gettysburg. Pickicket

20:17 writes all about Gettysburg. Pickicket

20:18 writes all about Gettysburg. Pickicket chart has probably uh you know, just the

20:20 chart has probably uh you know, just the

20:20 chart has probably uh you know, just the probably the best guide book about the

20:22 probably the best guide book about the

20:22 probably the best guide book about the battlefield. Her and Tom Vosler wrote it

20:24 battlefield. Her and Tom Vosler wrote it

20:24 battlefield. Her and Tom Vosler wrote it and she smirked at us a little bit

20:25 and she smirked at us a little bit

20:25 and she smirked at us a little bit before she moved.

20:26 before she moved.

20:26 before she moved. >> That's probably because she heard my

20:27 >> That's probably because she heard my

20:27 >> That's probably because she heard my stupid questions.

20:28 stupid questions.

20:28 stupid questions. >> Maybe. No, I think it was my stupid

20:29 >> Maybe. No, I think it was my stupid

20:29 >> Maybe. No, I think it was my stupid interpretation, sir. So, I'm walking you

20:32 interpretation, sir. So, I'm walking you

20:32 interpretation, sir. So, I'm walking you back here for a reason because You know,

20:33 back here for a reason because You know,

20:34 back here for a reason because You know, here we are at Devil's Den. Um, we don't

20:36 here we are at Devil's Den. Um, we don't

20:36 here we are at Devil's Den. Um, we don't know when Devil's Den got its name.

20:38 know when Devil's Den got its name.

20:38 know when Devil's Den got its name. Local tradition says that Devil's Den is

20:42 Local tradition says that Devil's Den is

20:42 Local tradition says that Devil's Den is uh named that long before the Battle of

20:43 uh named that long before the Battle of

20:43 uh named that long before the Battle of Gettysburg, but we have no evidence of

20:45 Gettysburg, but we have no evidence of

20:45 Gettysburg, but we have no evidence of that. Now, there's a pervasive story uh

20:48 that. Now, there's a pervasive story uh

20:48 that. Now, there's a pervasive story uh talking about a snake. There are other

20:49 talking about a snake. There are other

20:49 talking about a snake. There are other stories about a raccoon den back in here

20:51 stories about a raccoon den back in here

20:51 stories about a raccoon den back in here and everything like that. A guy named

20:52 and everything like that. A guy named

20:52 and everything like that. A guy named Degraph tangled with some raccoons and

20:55 Degraph tangled with some raccoons and

20:55 Degraph tangled with some raccoons and um came out losing a great deal of

20:57 um came out losing a great deal of

20:57 um came out losing a great deal of blood. But the main stories from the

21:00 blood. But the main stories from the

21:00 blood. But the main stories from the local people seem to be about this 20 or

21:02 local people seem to be about this 20 or

21:02 local people seem to be about this 20 or 30 foot snake that would eat little kids

21:03 30 foot snake that would eat little kids

21:03 30 foot snake that would eat little kids for breakfast all the time. And they

21:05 for breakfast all the time. And they

21:05 for breakfast all the time. And they tried to rid the neighborhood of this

21:06 tried to rid the neighborhood of this

21:06 tried to rid the neighborhood of this terrible reptile. And they could never

21:07 terrible reptile. And they could never

21:07 terrible reptile. And they could never kill and capture him. So they figured he

21:09 kill and capture him. So they figured he

21:09 kill and capture him. So they figured he died here in his lair. And that's why

21:11 died here in his lair. And that's why

21:11 died here in his lair. And that's why this is known as Devil's Den. Honestly,

21:12 this is known as Devil's Den. Honestly,

21:12 this is known as Devil's Den. Honestly, I think it's called Devil's Den because

21:14 I think it's called Devil's Den because

21:14 I think it's called Devil's Den because every rocky area seems to have a name

21:17 every rocky area seems to have a name

21:17 every rocky area seems to have a name called Devil, Devil's Bath, Devil's

21:19 called Devil, Devil's Bath, Devil's

21:19 called Devil, Devil's Bath, Devil's Lake, Devil's Tower. It's always the

21:20 Lake, Devil's Tower. It's always the

21:20 Lake, Devil's Tower. It's always the rocks. And the local Germans here, the

21:23 rocks. And the local Germans here, the

21:23 rocks. And the local Germans here, the Pennsylvania Dutch, said that the devil

21:25 Pennsylvania Dutch, said that the devil

21:25 Pennsylvania Dutch, said that the devil put rocks in their field to punish them.

21:27 put rocks in their field to punish them.

21:27 put rocks in their field to punish them. >> Oh yeah. We have the devil's cornfield,

21:28 >> Oh yeah. We have the devil's cornfield,

21:28 >> Oh yeah. We have the devil's cornfield, the devil's golf course, a lot of a lot

21:30 the devil's golf course, a lot of a lot

21:30 the devil's golf course, a lot of a lot of devil stuff in Death Valley,

21:31 of devil stuff in Death Valley,

21:31 of devil stuff in Death Valley, specifically anywhere there's rocks

21:33 specifically anywhere there's rocks

21:33 specifically anywhere there's rocks >> here at Gettysburg. By the way, we do

21:34 >> here at Gettysburg. By the way, we do

21:34 >> here at Gettysburg. By the way, we do have We're right next to the Devil's

21:35 have We're right next to the Devil's

21:35 have We're right next to the Devil's Bath. We're at the Devil's Den. There's

21:37 Bath. We're at the Devil's Den. There's

21:37 Bath. We're at the Devil's Den. There's a Devil's Slipper, a Devil's Kitchen.

21:39 a Devil's Slipper, a Devil's Kitchen.

21:39 a Devil's Slipper, a Devil's Kitchen. So, we've got no shortage of devils up

21:41 So, we've got no shortage of devils up

21:41 So, we've got no shortage of devils up here as well.

21:41 here as well.

21:41 here as well. >> A lot of devils.

21:42 >> A lot of devils.

21:42 >> A lot of devils. >> Now, the first local park historian said

21:44 >> Now, the first local park historian said

21:44 >> Now, the first local park historian said that people would go to the Big Rocks at

21:46 that people would go to the Big Rocks at

21:46 that people would go to the Big Rocks at Devil's Den, they'd see the Devil's Den

21:47 Devil's Den, they'd see the Devil's Den

21:47 Devil's Den, they'd see the Devil's Den sign and say like, you know, I guess

21:49 sign and say like, you know, I guess

21:49 sign and say like, you know, I guess I've been to Devil's Den. Okay, but he

21:51 I've been to Devil's Den. Okay, but he

21:51 I've been to Devil's Den. Okay, but he says they haven't been within 50 yards

21:52 says they haven't been within 50 yards

21:52 says they haven't been within 50 yards of it. In fact, Devil's Den is a very

21:55 of it. In fact, Devil's Den is a very

21:55 of it. In fact, Devil's Den is a very small cave, hard to get into under a

21:56 small cave, hard to get into under a

21:56 small cave, hard to get into under a ledge of rocks, which is why I'm taking

21:58 ledge of rocks, which is why I'm taking

21:58 ledge of rocks, which is why I'm taking you over here. According to this first

22:00 you over here. According to this first

22:00 you over here. According to this first historian, this isn't Devil's Den where

22:02 historian, this isn't Devil's Den where

22:02 historian, this isn't Devil's Den where the snake lived. That's Devil's Den

22:04 the snake lived. That's Devil's Den

22:04 the snake lived. That's Devil's Den >> way back there.

22:05 >> way back there.

22:05 >> way back there. >> Way back there. And you can crawl

22:08 >> Way back there. And you can crawl

22:08 >> Way back there. And you can crawl through it. I'm sure he's going to do it

22:09 through it. I'm sure he's going to do it

22:09 through it. I'm sure he's going to do it with this camera here.

22:10 with this camera here.

22:10 with this camera here. >> I don't want to. Are there spiders in

22:13 >> I don't want to. Are there spiders in

22:13 >> I don't want to. Are there spiders in Devil's

22:13 Devil's

22:13 Devil's >> D? Oh, well, there's probably snakes,

22:15 >> D? Oh, well, there's probably snakes,

22:15 >> D? Oh, well, there's probably snakes, man. You know, I shame eighth graders

22:17 man. You know, I shame eighth graders

22:17 man. You know, I shame eighth graders into going in there all the time. And I

22:19 into going in there all the time. And I

22:19 into going in there all the time. And I once a 300 lb minor said I can get in

22:22 once a 300 lb minor said I can get in

22:22 once a 300 lb minor said I can get in and out of that and he did. It comes out

22:24 and out of that and he did. It comes out

22:24 and out of that and he did. It comes out the other side and there's one spot you

22:26 the other side and there's one spot you

22:26 the other side and there's one spot you can actually stand up in there. In any

22:27 can actually stand up in there. In any

22:27 can actually stand up in there. In any case, um you know we have a lot of

22:30 case, um you know we have a lot of

22:30 case, um you know we have a lot of folklore at Gettysburg. Uh you know

22:32 folklore at Gettysburg. Uh you know

22:32 folklore at Gettysburg. Uh you know there's one story this the guy who told

22:34 there's one story this the guy who told

22:34 there's one story this the guy who told the snake story said that grandpa saw it

22:36 the snake story said that grandpa saw it

22:36 the snake story said that grandpa saw it and was badly frightened and he said his

22:38 and was badly frightened and he said his

22:38 and was badly frightened and he said his great-grandfather used to talk to the

22:40 great-grandfather used to talk to the

22:40 great-grandfather used to talk to the Native Americans who were here and they

22:42 Native Americans who were here and they

22:42 Native Americans who were here and they called the snake heap big snake. So that

22:44 called the snake heap big snake. So that

22:44 called the snake heap big snake. So that just sounds a little too convenient for

22:46 just sounds a little too convenient for

22:46 just sounds a little too convenient for truth but a good story nonetheless. So

22:48 truth but a good story nonetheless. So

22:48 truth but a good story nonetheless. So the snake was the devil.

22:50 the snake was the devil.

22:50 the snake was the devil. >> Yeah. Supposedly. And there used to be a

22:51 >> Yeah. Supposedly. And there used to be a

22:51 >> Yeah. Supposedly. And there used to be a spring in here so he could drink water.

22:53 spring in here so he could drink water.

22:53 spring in here so he could drink water. You know, the story could go that he

22:54 You know, the story could go that he

22:54 You know, the story could go that he would, you know, um you know, uh slide

22:57 would, you know, um you know, uh slide

22:58 would, you know, um you know, uh slide in and kill little kids and cook them up

22:59 in and kill little kids and cook them up

23:00 in and kill little kids and cook them up in the kitchen and then chill out in

23:01 in the kitchen and then chill out in

23:01 in the kitchen and then chill out in Devil's D. Take a bath afterward at the

23:03 Devil's D. Take a bath afterward at the

23:03 Devil's D. Take a bath afterward at the Devil's Bath.

23:04 Devil's Bath.

23:04 Devil's Bath. >> So that's what the where the locals

23:05 >> So that's what the where the locals

23:05 >> So that's what the where the locals think the name came from.

23:07 think the name came from.

23:07 think the name came from. >> Yeah. Or at least one of the stories

23:08 >> Yeah. Or at least one of the stories

23:08 >> Yeah. Or at least one of the stories they told. The most pervasive stories

23:10 they told. The most pervasive stories

23:10 they told. The most pervasive stories involve snakes. Okay. and it's from 20

23:12 involve snakes. Okay. and it's from 20

23:12 involve snakes. Okay. and it's from 20 to 30 feet, turning gray with age, had a

23:15 to 30 feet, turning gray with age, had a

23:15 to 30 feet, turning gray with age, had a capacious mouth that would swallow a

23:17 capacious mouth that would swallow a

23:17 capacious mouth that would swallow a dog. Um, but you know, my guess is there

23:19 dog. Um, but you know, my guess is there

23:19 dog. Um, but you know, my guess is there was a lot of big snakes here. Now, what

23:20 was a lot of big snakes here. Now, what

23:20 was a lot of big snakes here. Now, what we know is that there are 17 different

23:22 we know is that there are 17 different

23:22 we know is that there are 17 different species of snakes uh in this part of

23:24 species of snakes uh in this part of

23:24 species of snakes uh in this part of Pennsylvania. And I have seen like a an

23:27 Pennsylvania. And I have seen like a an

23:27 Pennsylvania. And I have seen like a an 11footer before is the largest ones

23:28 11footer before is the largest ones

23:28 11footer before is the largest ones there. They they love the rocks here at

23:30 there. They they love the rocks here at

23:30 there. They they love the rocks here at Devil's Den, but even an 11 foot black

23:32 Devil's Den, but even an 11 foot black

23:32 Devil's Den, but even an 11 foot black snake tends to be about this big. Not of

23:35 snake tends to be about this big. Not of

23:35 snake tends to be about this big. Not of the capacious sort that's going to

23:36 the capacious sort that's going to

23:36 the capacious sort that's going to swallow a dog. So, I I've got my eyes

23:39 swallow a dog. So, I I've got my eyes

23:39 swallow a dog. So, I I've got my eyes out for for larger ones. And there's

23:41 out for for larger ones. And there's

23:41 out for for larger ones. And there's there's multiple exits to this, right?

23:43 there's multiple exits to this, right?

23:43 there's multiple exits to this, right? >> Yeah. There there are six ways in and

23:45 >> Yeah. There there are six ways in and

23:45 >> Yeah. There there are six ways in and out of the den, but there's one main

23:47 out of the den, but there's one main

23:47 out of the den, but there's one main entrance you're looking at, and then

23:48 entrance you're looking at, and then

23:48 entrance you're looking at, and then there's one main way to come out.

23:50 there's one main way to come out.

23:50 there's one main way to come out. >> I just see I I would normally I would

23:52 >> I just see I I would normally I would

23:52 >> I just see I I would normally I would normally crawl through a cave like this,

23:54 normally crawl through a cave like this,

23:54 normally crawl through a cave like this, no problem. But I see a lot of spiderw

23:55 no problem. But I see a lot of spiderw

23:55 no problem. But I see a lot of spiderw webs, and I'm afraid of the big snake.

23:57 webs, and I'm afraid of the big snake.

23:57 webs, and I'm afraid of the big snake. >> Okay, we're about to go up on top of

23:59 >> Okay, we're about to go up on top of

23:59 >> Okay, we're about to go up on top of Devil's Den, where I understand most of

24:01 Devil's Den, where I understand most of

24:01 Devil's Den, where I understand most of the fighting happened to continue the

24:02 the fighting happened to continue the

24:02 the fighting happened to continue the story. But down here, this is the gully

24:05 story. But down here, this is the gully

24:05 story. But down here, this is the gully the Confederates were moving through.

24:06 the Confederates were moving through.

24:06 the Confederates were moving through. They were trying to block, right? And so

24:08 They were trying to block, right? And so

24:08 They were trying to block, right? And so this is the slaughter pen.

24:09 this is the slaughter pen.

24:09 this is the slaughter pen. >> Yeah. And Gary's got stories of

24:11 >> Yeah. And Gary's got stories of

24:11 >> Yeah. And Gary's got stories of literally every rock on this

24:12 literally every rock on this

24:12 literally every rock on this battlefield. So, so what is the

24:14 battlefield. So, so what is the

24:14 battlefield. So, so what is the significance here?

24:15 significance here?

24:15 significance here? >> You know, I'll say that one time when I

24:16 >> You know, I'll say that one time when I

24:16 >> You know, I'll say that one time when I was writing the Devil's Den book uh in

24:18 was writing the Devil's Den book uh in

24:18 was writing the Devil's Den book uh in the 1990s, I had more time on my hands

24:19 the 1990s, I had more time on my hands

24:19 the 1990s, I had more time on my hands and I stood on every larger rock at

24:21 and I stood on every larger rock at

24:21 and I stood on every larger rock at Devil's Den and sketched it from above

24:23 Devil's Den and sketched it from above

24:23 Devil's Den and sketched it from above because we didn't have Google Earth

24:24 because we didn't have Google Earth

24:24 because we didn't have Google Earth then. Okay. Um so, this is called the

24:26 then. Okay. Um so, this is called the

24:26 then. Okay. Um so, this is called the Slaughter Pen. And it was not overgrown

24:28 Slaughter Pen. And it was not overgrown

24:28 Slaughter Pen. And it was not overgrown like this. So, imagine uh Alabama and

24:31 like this. So, imagine uh Alabama and

24:31 like this. So, imagine uh Alabama and Georgia troops trying to pick their way.

24:33 Georgia troops trying to pick their way.

24:33 Georgia troops trying to pick their way. They said it was more like Indian

24:34 They said it was more like Indian

24:34 They said it was more like Indian fighting than anything else they

24:35 fighting than anything else they

24:35 fighting than anything else they experienced here. And you know, this

24:37 experienced here. And you know, this

24:37 experienced here. And you know, this would be a great place to just stop and

24:39 would be a great place to just stop and

24:39 would be a great place to just stop and be safe as well. Now, if you zoom

24:41 be safe as well. Now, if you zoom

24:41 be safe as well. Now, if you zoom forward four months after the battle, an

24:43 forward four months after the battle, an

24:43 forward four months after the battle, an enterprising photographer wanted to sell

24:45 enterprising photographer wanted to sell

24:45 enterprising photographer wanted to sell souvenirs uh when President Lincoln and

24:48 souvenirs uh when President Lincoln and

24:48 souvenirs uh when President Lincoln and half his cabinet and a bunch of

24:49 half his cabinet and a bunch of

24:49 half his cabinet and a bunch of governors were all coming here for this

24:50 governors were all coming here for this

24:50 governors were all coming here for this thing later known as the Gettysburg

24:51 thing later known as the Gettysburg

24:51 thing later known as the Gettysburg Address. Okay. So, this photographer

24:53 Address. Okay. So, this photographer

24:54 Address. Okay. So, this photographer went to a local hospital and managed to

24:55 went to a local hospital and managed to

24:55 went to a local hospital and managed to get some soldiers who were game, eight

24:57 get some soldiers who were game, eight

24:58 get some soldiers who were game, eight of them I believe, to pose around as

25:00 of them I believe, to pose around as

25:00 of them I believe, to pose around as dead on the rocks of Devil's Den. And

25:02 dead on the rocks of Devil's Den. And

25:02 dead on the rocks of Devil's Den. And this is one of the areas where he took

25:03 this is one of the areas where he took

25:04 this is one of the areas where he took his camera right up to this rock and

25:05 his camera right up to this rock and

25:05 his camera right up to this rock and recorded. And you can see enough of it

25:07 recorded. And you can see enough of it

25:07 recorded. And you can see enough of it like this little shelf right here and a

25:09 like this little shelf right here and a

25:09 like this little shelf right here and a big rock up there. You can see these

25:11 big rock up there. You can see these

25:11 big rock up there. You can see these guys in this photo that we'll flash up

25:13 guys in this photo that we'll flash up

25:13 guys in this photo that we'll flash up on B-roll. Uh just kind of laying there.

25:15 on B-roll. Uh just kind of laying there.

25:15 on B-roll. Uh just kind of laying there. There's a guy on top. You know, the one

25:16 There's a guy on top. You know, the one

25:16 There's a guy on top. You know, the one thing that you know is like in the movie

25:18 thing that you know is like in the movie

25:18 thing that you know is like in the movie Airplane or otherwise, you know, when

25:19 Airplane or otherwise, you know, when

25:19 Airplane or otherwise, you know, when people pretend to be dead, they don't

25:21 people pretend to be dead, they don't

25:21 people pretend to be dead, they don't look like the actual dead soldiers in

25:23 look like the actual dead soldiers in

25:23 look like the actual dead soldiers in photos. There's, you know, so these guys

25:25 photos. There's, you know, so these guys

25:25 photos. There's, you know, so these guys like Yeah. like all spled out like that,

25:27 like Yeah. like all spled out like that,

25:27 like Yeah. like all spled out like that, like 10 of them on this rock as if

25:28 like 10 of them on this rock as if

25:28 like 10 of them on this rock as if they're going to all fall that way. And

25:30 they're going to all fall that way. And

25:30 they're going to all fall that way. And you know, also if you look at this photo

25:32 you know, also if you look at this photo

25:32 you know, also if you look at this photo that we're showing you, you also notice

25:33 that we're showing you, you also notice

25:33 that we're showing you, you also notice there's no leaves on the trees, right?

25:35 there's no leaves on the trees, right?

25:35 there's no leaves on the trees, right? So, and this is a summer battle. So,

25:37 So, and this is a summer battle. So,

25:37 So, and this is a summer battle. So, this is clearly much later, but many

25:39 this is clearly much later, but many

25:39 this is clearly much later, but many people still take these to be real

25:40 people still take these to be real

25:40 people still take these to be real photos of

25:41 photos of

25:41 photos of >> I would have never known. I would have

25:42 >> I would have never known. I would have

25:42 >> I would have never known. I would have thought that that was a real

25:43 thought that that was a real

25:43 thought that that was a real battlefield. And there were obviously

25:45 battlefield. And there were obviously

25:45 battlefield. And there were obviously this field here, the slaughter pen, is

25:48 this field here, the slaughter pen, is

25:48 this field here, the slaughter pen, is probably named because there were many

25:49 probably named because there were many

25:49 probably named because there were many people down here who were actual dead.

25:52 people down here who were actual dead.

25:52 people down here who were actual dead. But that's interesting that they were

25:53 But that's interesting that they were

25:53 But that's interesting that they were actually

25:54 actually

25:54 actually >> uh staging photos after the fact to sell

25:57 >> uh staging photos after the fact to sell

25:57 >> uh staging photos after the fact to sell for souvenirs. If I could be an old

25:59 for souvenirs. If I could be an old

25:59 for souvenirs. If I could be an old person in any way, and that is to

26:01 person in any way, and that is to

26:01 person in any way, and that is to satisfy the irresistible urge to give

26:04 satisfy the irresistible urge to give

26:04 satisfy the irresistible urge to give advice. One of them is to be skeptical

26:07 advice. One of them is to be skeptical

26:07 advice. One of them is to be skeptical of things you see on TV and on the

26:08 of things you see on TV and on the

26:08 of things you see on TV and on the internet today and things from the past

26:10 internet today and things from the past

26:10 internet today and things from the past as well. People and if you're trying to

26:12 as well. People and if you're trying to

26:12 as well. People and if you're trying to sell something, the temptation to maybe

26:16 sell something, the temptation to maybe

26:16 sell something, the temptation to maybe do something either less ethical or true

26:19 do something either less ethical or true

26:19 do something either less ethical or true is too great for so many.

26:20 is too great for so many.

26:20 is too great for so many. >> Can I just say really quick before we

26:21 >> Can I just say really quick before we

26:21 >> Can I just say really quick before we get up there, you just did a lot of

26:23 get up there, you just did a lot of

26:23 get up there, you just did a lot of backwards walking here. Clearly, you

26:25 backwards walking here. Clearly, you

26:25 backwards walking here. Clearly, you know this trail very very well.

26:27 know this trail very very well.

26:27 know this trail very very well. >> Here, by the way, we are at a Gettysburg

26:29 >> Here, by the way, we are at a Gettysburg

26:29 >> Here, by the way, we are at a Gettysburg movie scene. During the Gettysburg

26:31 movie scene. During the Gettysburg

26:31 movie scene. During the Gettysburg movie, this is the Ted Turner production

26:33 movie, this is the Ted Turner production

26:33 movie, this is the Ted Turner production that you know, uh, you know, it's more

26:34 that you know, uh, you know, it's more

26:34 that you know, uh, you know, it's more than 4 hours long. Uh, most of it was

26:36 than 4 hours long. Uh, most of it was

26:36 than 4 hours long. Uh, most of it was filmed off the battlefield because

26:37 filmed off the battlefield because

26:37 filmed off the battlefield because there's a lot of roads and monuments in

26:39 there's a lot of roads and monuments in

26:39 there's a lot of roads and monuments in the way, but they did film at Devil's

26:40 the way, but they did film at Devil's

26:40 the way, but they did film at Devil's Den. And if you look down in one scene

26:42 Den. And if you look down in one scene

26:42 Den. And if you look down in one scene after they captured Devil's Den, there's

26:44 after they captured Devil's Den, there's

26:44 after they captured Devil's Den, there's a Confederate soldier who hops down

26:45 a Confederate soldier who hops down

26:45 a Confederate soldier who hops down there and rests his rifle on that higher

26:48 there and rests his rifle on that higher

26:48 there and rests his rifle on that higher up boulder and goes like this. And then

26:50 up boulder and goes like this. And then

26:50 up boulder and goes like this. And then a Union soldier is shown flying off the

26:52 a Union soldier is shown flying off the

26:52 a Union soldier is shown flying off the top of Devil's Den. you know, like he

26:54 top of Devil's Den. you know, like he

26:54 top of Devil's Den. you know, like he just shot that guy and that's right over

26:56 just shot that guy and that's right over

26:56 just shot that guy and that's right over there, too. So,

26:56 there, too. So,

26:56 there, too. So, >> so it's not just stage souvenirs that

26:58 >> so it's not just stage souvenirs that

26:58 >> so it's not just stage souvenirs that they filmed over here. They filmed

27:00 they filmed over here. They filmed

27:00 they filmed over here. They filmed movies over here as well.

27:02 movies over here as well.

27:02 movies over here as well. >> You have to study a historic site over

27:04 >> You have to study a historic site over

27:04 >> You have to study a historic site over time to really understand it. And I'll

27:07 time to really understand it. And I'll

27:07 time to really understand it. And I'll tell you, for a while in the '90s, after

27:08 tell you, for a while in the '90s, after

27:08 tell you, for a while in the '90s, after the movie came out, I was getting as

27:10 the movie came out, I was getting as

27:10 the movie came out, I was getting as many questions about the movie as I did

27:12 many questions about the movie as I did

27:12 many questions about the movie as I did about the history of what actually

27:14 about the history of what actually

27:14 about the history of what actually happened here. So, you know, you you do

27:16 happened here. So, you know, you you do

27:16 happened here. So, you know, you you do have to study a place over time, and

27:18 have to study a place over time, and

27:18 have to study a place over time, and there's no better place than Devil's Den

27:20 there's no better place than Devil's Den

27:20 there's no better place than Devil's Den at Gettysburg to uh tell a variety of

27:22 at Gettysburg to uh tell a variety of

27:22 at Gettysburg to uh tell a variety of stories because, man, there are there

27:25 stories because, man, there are there

27:25 stories because, man, there are there everything seems to be happening here to

27:26 everything seems to be happening here to

27:26 everything seems to be happening here to satisfy whether you're into agriculture,

27:29 satisfy whether you're into agriculture,

27:29 satisfy whether you're into agriculture, architecture, geology, fighting, photos,

27:32 architecture, geology, fighting, photos,

27:32 architecture, geology, fighting, photos, movies, you've got it all here. Don't

27:33 movies, you've got it all here. Don't

27:33 movies, you've got it all here. Don't worry, I'll spare you the movie

27:35 worry, I'll spare you the movie

27:35 worry, I'll spare you the movie questions today. Even though I love that

27:36 questions today. Even though I love that

27:36 questions today. Even though I love that movie, it's one of my favorite movies.

27:37 movie, it's one of my favorite movies.

27:37 movie, it's one of my favorite movies. >> I love it, too.

27:38 >> I love it, too.

27:38 >> I love it, too. >> All right, so Little Roundtop is off in

27:40 >> All right, so Little Roundtop is off in

27:40 >> All right, so Little Roundtop is off in the distance there. Remember the Union

27:41 the distance there. Remember the Union

27:41 the distance there. Remember the Union line is going miles in that direction.

27:43 line is going miles in that direction.

27:44 line is going miles in that direction. Then way over here, the Confederates are

27:46 Then way over here, the Confederates are

27:46 Then way over here, the Confederates are coming down all the way to those distant

27:49 coming down all the way to those distant

27:49 coming down all the way to those distant trees here and that is where they're

27:51 trees here and that is where they're

27:51 trees here and that is where they're attacking from. Right. They're moving up

27:53 attacking from. Right. They're moving up

27:53 attacking from. Right. They're moving up this way towards Devil's D.

27:54 this way towards Devil's D.

27:54 this way towards Devil's D. >> Dude, I don't think I think you've just

27:55 >> Dude, I don't think I think you've just

27:55 >> Dude, I don't think I think you've just rendered me unnecessary. Well done, man.

27:57 rendered me unnecessary. Well done, man.

27:58 rendered me unnecessary. Well done, man. I uh you do see that's Confederate

28:01 I uh you do see that's Confederate

28:01 I uh you do see that's Confederate territory over there. The distant tree

28:02 territory over there. The distant tree

28:02 territory over there. The distant tree line is Seminary and Warfield Ridge.

28:04 line is Seminary and Warfield Ridge.

28:04 line is Seminary and Warfield Ridge. These are troops under James Long

28:06 These are troops under James Long

28:06 These are troops under James Long Street, specifically hoodsmen from

28:08 Street, specifically hoodsmen from

28:08 Street, specifically hoodsmen from Georgia, Texas, Arkansas, and Alabama.

28:10 Georgia, Texas, Arkansas, and Alabama.

28:10 Georgia, Texas, Arkansas, and Alabama. And they're going to attack in this

28:11 And they're going to attack in this

28:11 And they're going to attack in this direction.

28:12 direction.

28:12 direction. >> I feel surrounded already just looking

28:13 >> I feel surrounded already just looking

28:14 >> I feel surrounded already just looking out that way and seeing the ridge line

28:15 out that way and seeing the ridge line

28:15 out that way and seeing the ridge line is all the way around us.

28:17 is all the way around us.

28:17 is all the way around us. >> You should feel that way because at this

28:18 >> You should feel that way because at this

28:18 >> You should feel that way because at this point, the Union line ends right about

28:20 point, the Union line ends right about

28:20 point, the Union line ends right about here. And you're seeing Confederates way

28:22 here. And you're seeing Confederates way

28:22 here. And you're seeing Confederates way over there. And in fact, there's a guy

28:24 over there. And in fact, there's a guy

28:24 over there. And in fact, there's a guy on Little Roundtop, Governor Kemell

28:26 on Little Roundtop, Governor Kemell

28:26 on Little Roundtop, Governor Kemell Warren, who sees the supposedly

28:28 Warren, who sees the supposedly

28:28 Warren, who sees the supposedly glistening of bayonets over there and

28:30 glistening of bayonets over there and

28:30 glistening of bayonets over there and knows they're about to be outflanked.

28:31 knows they're about to be outflanked.

28:31 knows they're about to be outflanked. And that's why he tries to get troops on

28:33 And that's why he tries to get troops on

28:33 And that's why he tries to get troops on Little Round Top. That's where they are

28:34 Little Round Top. That's where they are

28:34 Little Round Top. That's where they are when he's going, "We need troops up here

28:35 when he's going, "We need troops up here

28:35 when he's going, "We need troops up here now."

28:36 now."

28:36 now." >> Correct. That's the actual quote. We

28:38 >> Correct. That's the actual quote. We

28:38 >> Correct. That's the actual quote. We need troops up here now. Um, in any

28:40 need troops up here now. Um, in any

28:40 need troops up here now. Um, in any case, these troops are going to attack

28:41 case, these troops are going to attack

28:41 case, these troops are going to attack in this direction and it is terrible

28:43 in this direction and it is terrible

28:43 in this direction and it is terrible bloody fighting. In fact, what James

28:44 bloody fighting. In fact, what James

28:44 bloody fighting. In fact, what James Long Street would later call the best

28:46 Long Street would later call the best

28:46 Long Street would later call the best three hours fighting ever done by any

28:48 three hours fighting ever done by any

28:48 three hours fighting ever done by any troops on any battlefield. And he said

28:49 troops on any battlefield. And he said

28:49 troops on any battlefield. And he said that despite uh an ultimate success,

28:52 that despite uh an ultimate success,

28:52 that despite uh an ultimate success, they never broke through the Union line.

28:54 they never broke through the Union line.

28:54 they never broke through the Union line. They never captured Little Roundtop. And

28:55 They never captured Little Roundtop. And

28:56 They never captured Little Roundtop. And he said this was the best fighting. And

28:57 he said this was the best fighting. And

28:58 he said this was the best fighting. And this dude saw a lot of fights in Mexico

28:59 this dude saw a lot of fights in Mexico

29:00 this dude saw a lot of fights in Mexico and in the Civil War. So that means

29:01 and in the Civil War. So that means

29:01 and in the Civil War. So that means quite a bit. Now, these Confederates

29:03 quite a bit. Now, these Confederates

29:03 quite a bit. Now, these Confederates attacking in this direction, they they

29:05 attacking in this direction, they they

29:05 attacking in this direction, they they split and they co-mingle. So, they end

29:06 split and they co-mingle. So, they end

29:06 split and they co-mingle. So, they end up sort of all over the place. Some go

29:08 up sort of all over the place. Some go

29:08 up sort of all over the place. Some go up big round top toward Little Round

29:09 up big round top toward Little Round

29:09 up big round top toward Little Round Top. Some end up here at Devil's Den.

29:11 Top. Some end up here at Devil's Den.

29:11 Top. Some end up here at Devil's Den. Some not some end up in the woods behind

29:13 Some not some end up in the woods behind

29:13 Some not some end up in the woods behind me. So, there's just terrible fighting

29:14 me. So, there's just terrible fighting

29:14 me. So, there's just terrible fighting here. And it produces a lot of

29:15 here. And it produces a lot of

29:15 here. And it produces a lot of casualties. Okay. There's going to be um

29:18 casualties. Okay. There's going to be um

29:18 casualties. Okay. There's going to be um you know, thousands of casualties in

29:20 you know, thousands of casualties in

29:20 you know, thousands of casualties in this area. 1,800 casualties killed,

29:22 this area. 1,800 casualties killed,

29:22 this area. 1,800 casualties killed, wounded, captured, or missing in Devil's

29:24 wounded, captured, or missing in Devil's

29:24 wounded, captured, or missing in Devil's Den alone. And some of those casualties,

29:26 Den alone. And some of those casualties,

29:26 Den alone. And some of those casualties, as I mentioned, were actually

29:27 as I mentioned, were actually

29:27 as I mentioned, were actually photographed. Now, there was a young

29:30 photographed. Now, there was a young

29:30 photographed. Now, there was a young soldier who, for whatever reason,

29:32 soldier who, for whatever reason,

29:32 soldier who, for whatever reason, probably because he lingered longer and

29:33 probably because he lingered longer and

29:33 probably because he lingered longer and was mortally wounded and didn't die

29:35 was mortally wounded and didn't die

29:35 was mortally wounded and didn't die right away, who didn't succumb to

29:37 right away, who didn't succumb to

29:37 right away, who didn't succumb to putrifaction and decomposition the same

29:39 putrifaction and decomposition the same

29:39 putrifaction and decomposition the same way that some of all the other soldiers

29:41 way that some of all the other soldiers

29:41 way that some of all the other soldiers that were photographed did. So, he was

29:43 that were photographed did. So, he was

29:44 that were photographed did. So, he was photographed four times because he

29:45 photographed four times because he

29:45 photographed four times because he looked like he could be your brother or

29:46 looked like he could be your brother or

29:46 looked like he could be your brother or son. So, the photographers who came here

29:48 son. So, the photographers who came here

29:48 son. So, the photographers who came here on July 6th took four photos of him next

29:51 on July 6th took four photos of him next

29:51 on July 6th took four photos of him next to a boulder up there. We'll flash up

29:52 to a boulder up there. We'll flash up

29:52 to a boulder up there. We'll flash up some pictures of that. Okay. And after

29:55 some pictures of that. Okay. And after

29:55 some pictures of that. Okay. And after those four photos, apparently the

29:56 those four photos, apparently the

29:56 those four photos, apparently the photographers walked up here and

29:58 photographers walked up here and

29:58 photographers walked up here and according to William Frazzanito

30:00 according to William Frazzanito

30:00 according to William Frazzanito came upon the perfect position for a

30:02 came upon the perfect position for a

30:02 came upon the perfect position for a photo. Most three most Civil War photos

30:04 photo. Most three most Civil War photos

30:04 photo. Most three most Civil War photos were taken in 3D. And here are rocks,

30:06 were taken in 3D. And here are rocks,

30:06 were taken in 3D. And here are rocks, boulders leading toward a center point

30:08 boulders leading toward a center point

30:08 boulders leading toward a center point with a stone wall and a little round top

30:10 with a stone wall and a little round top

30:10 with a stone wall and a little round top in the background, but no body. Wow. So

30:13 in the background, but no body. Wow. So

30:13 in the background, but no body. Wow. So in a flash of creative excitement,

30:14 in a flash of creative excitement,

30:14 in a flash of creative excitement, Frazzanito says discovered that they

30:17 Frazzanito says discovered that they

30:17 Frazzanito says discovered that they dragged him up here 72 yards on a

30:20 dragged him up here 72 yards on a

30:20 dragged him up here 72 yards on a blanket and brought him to this position

30:22 blanket and brought him to this position

30:22 blanket and brought him to this position and recorded two different photos of him

30:24 and recorded two different photos of him

30:24 and recorded two different photos of him here. Okay. And one of them called the

30:27 here. Okay. And one of them called the

30:27 here. Okay. And one of them called the home of a rebel sharpshooter or

30:28 home of a rebel sharpshooter or

30:28 home of a rebel sharpshooter or sharpshooters's last sleep where rocks

30:30 sharpshooters's last sleep where rocks

30:30 sharpshooters's last sleep where rocks could not save him became one of the

30:32 could not save him became one of the

30:32 could not save him became one of the most famous photos of the Civil War. You

30:34 most famous photos of the Civil War. You

30:34 most famous photos of the Civil War. You see it here and thousands of people come

30:36 see it here and thousands of people come

30:36 see it here and thousands of people come here every year and marvel at this

30:39 here every year and marvel at this

30:39 here every year and marvel at this scene, this stage scene with a

30:42 scene, this stage scene with a

30:42 scene, this stage scene with a photographers's prop for a gun with a

30:44 photographers's prop for a gun with a

30:44 photographers's prop for a gun with a story made up about how he was a

30:45 story made up about how he was a

30:45 story made up about how he was a sharpshooter and he laid out his head to

30:47 sharpshooter and he laid out his head to

30:47 sharpshooter and he laid out his head to sort of await his death here. And he um

30:51 sort of await his death here. And he um

30:51 sort of await his death here. And he um you know he did die here, but the story

30:53 you know he did die here, but the story

30:53 you know he did die here, but the story is made up. What is what we know about

30:55 is made up. What is what we know about

30:55 is made up. What is what we know about him is almost nothing other than that he

30:57 him is almost nothing other than that he

30:57 him is almost nothing other than that he was killed in the Battle of Gettysburg

30:58 was killed in the Battle of Gettysburg

30:58 was killed in the Battle of Gettysburg and that he was young. Okay. Now, on my

31:00 and that he was young. Okay. Now, on my

31:00 and that he was young. Okay. Now, on my first trip here, and this isn't for

31:02 first trip here, and this isn't for

31:02 first trip here, and this isn't for everybody, I came upon this spot in

31:04 everybody, I came upon this spot in

31:04 everybody, I came upon this spot in 1988, and I knew exactly what I was

31:07 1988, and I knew exactly what I was

31:07 1988, and I knew exactly what I was going to do. I was already obsessed with

31:08 going to do. I was already obsessed with

31:08 going to do. I was already obsessed with this place, and I knew I was going to

31:10 this place, and I knew I was going to

31:10 this place, and I knew I was going to set up my camera, lay down in the spot,

31:13 set up my camera, lay down in the spot,

31:13 set up my camera, lay down in the spot, okay? And that was my way of getting

31:15 okay? And that was my way of getting

31:15 okay? And that was my way of getting closer to the Battle of Gettysburg. Now,

31:17 closer to the Battle of Gettysburg. Now,

31:17 closer to the Battle of Gettysburg. Now, this isn't for

31:18 this isn't for

31:18 this isn't for >> Did you know that that photo was staged

31:19 >> Did you know that that photo was staged

31:19 >> Did you know that that photo was staged at the time?

31:20 at the time?

31:20 at the time? >> I did. Even though I knew he was dragged

31:22 >> I did. Even though I knew he was dragged

31:22 >> I did. Even though I knew he was dragged here, I wanted to experience that. I

31:24 here, I wanted to experience that. I

31:24 here, I wanted to experience that. I wasn't trying to experience his last

31:25 wasn't trying to experience his last

31:25 wasn't trying to experience his last moments, but this was my way of getting

31:27 moments, but this was my way of getting

31:27 moments, but this was my way of getting closer to history, and this is the way I

31:28 closer to history, and this is the way I

31:28 closer to history, and this is the way I look at it. you know, as long as it's

31:30 look at it. you know, as long as it's

31:30 look at it. you know, as long as it's legal, you know, go ahead and interact

31:32 legal, you know, go ahead and interact

31:32 legal, you know, go ahead and interact with the battlefield the way you'd like.

31:33 with the battlefield the way you'd like.

31:33 with the battlefield the way you'd like. I, you know, people I just saw a jogger

31:35 I, you know, people I just saw a jogger

31:35 I, you know, people I just saw a jogger there. People recreate on battlefields.

31:37 there. People recreate on battlefields.

31:37 there. People recreate on battlefields. Veterans came and had fun on

31:39 Veterans came and had fun on

31:39 Veterans came and had fun on battlefields. People have used, you

31:40 battlefields. People have used, you

31:40 battlefields. People have used, you know, animals have used the battlefield

31:42 know, animals have used the battlefield

31:42 know, animals have used the battlefield as a bathroom for hundreds of years, you

31:44 as a bathroom for hundreds of years, you

31:44 as a bathroom for hundreds of years, you know. So, to me,

31:46 know. So, to me,

31:46 know. So, to me, >> because there must be sour pusses who

31:47 >> because there must be sour pusses who

31:47 >> because there must be sour pusses who come and they say, "You shouldn't be

31:48 come and they say, "You shouldn't be

31:48 come and they say, "You shouldn't be playing tetherball or whatever you're

31:50 playing tetherball or whatever you're

31:50 playing tetherball or whatever you're doing at the soccer field." And there

31:52 doing at the soccer field." And there

31:52 doing at the soccer field." And there are sometimes, you know, I'm not a fan

31:54 are sometimes, you know, I'm not a fan

31:54 are sometimes, you know, I'm not a fan of the big, you know, when there's

31:56 of the big, you know, when there's

31:56 of the big, you know, when there's 10,000 Harley's here for a convention

31:58 10,000 Harley's here for a convention

31:58 10,000 Harley's here for a convention and it just doesn't seem to fit. But

32:00 and it just doesn't seem to fit. But

32:00 and it just doesn't seem to fit. But people interact with the battlefield in

32:02 people interact with the battlefield in

32:02 people interact with the battlefield in different ways and I have had as a tour

32:03 different ways and I have had as a tour

32:03 different ways and I have had as a tour guide people pass out usually from heat

32:06 guide people pass out usually from heat

32:06 guide people pass out usually from heat um and lash out at me. They get angry,

32:07 um and lash out at me. They get angry,

32:07 um and lash out at me. They get angry, they get sad, they get happy, they don't

32:09 they get sad, they get happy, they don't

32:09 they get sad, they get happy, they don't want to deal with it, every range of

32:10 want to deal with it, every range of

32:10 want to deal with it, every range of emotion. So, in as much as that we are

32:12 emotion. So, in as much as that we are

32:12 emotion. So, in as much as that we are complex beings, I encourage people to

32:14 complex beings, I encourage people to

32:14 complex beings, I encourage people to legally engage with historic sites the

32:16 legally engage with historic sites the

32:16 legally engage with historic sites the way that they feel right about.

32:17 way that they feel right about.

32:17 way that they feel right about. >> Yeah. I was worried about wearing a

32:18 >> Yeah. I was worried about wearing a

32:18 >> Yeah. I was worried about wearing a Ninja Turtle shirt to a place where so

32:20 Ninja Turtle shirt to a place where so

32:20 Ninja Turtle shirt to a place where so many people die. But then I realized the

32:22 many people die. But then I realized the

32:22 many people die. But then I realized the Ninja Turtles know a thing or two about

32:23 Ninja Turtles know a thing or two about

32:23 Ninja Turtles know a thing or two about fighting.

32:24 fighting.

32:24 fighting. >> You're right about that, man. And they

32:26 >> You're right about that, man. And they

32:26 >> You're right about that, man. And they can fight in like in little, you know,

32:28 can fight in like in little, you know,

32:28 can fight in like in little, you know, difficult places to get into sewers and

32:31 difficult places to get into sewers and

32:31 difficult places to get into sewers and devil's den. And let me just say real

32:32 devil's den. And let me just say real

32:32 devil's den. And let me just say real quick, too, that when I first came here,

32:34 quick, too, that when I first came here,

32:34 quick, too, that when I first came here, too. I didn't it was my first trip. I

32:36 too. I didn't it was my first trip. I

32:36 too. I didn't it was my first trip. I didn't know exactly if I was able

32:38 didn't know exactly if I was able

32:38 didn't know exactly if I was able allowed to wear a t-shirt. So on a hot

32:40 allowed to wear a t-shirt. So on a hot

32:40 allowed to wear a t-shirt. So on a hot day, I still wore a Madress polo. This

32:42 day, I still wore a Madress polo. This

32:42 day, I still wore a Madress polo. This was the 80s after all. So, it's a Ralph

32:44 was the 80s after all. So, it's a Ralph

32:44 was the 80s after all. So, it's a Ralph Lauren Madress Polo with t-shirt under

32:46 Lauren Madress Polo with t-shirt under

32:46 Lauren Madress Polo with t-shirt under it and Bermuda shorts. So, I feel all

32:49 it and Bermuda shorts. So, I feel all

32:49 it and Bermuda shorts. So, I feel all right. I'm all right in the shorts.

32:51 right. I'm all right in the shorts.

32:51 right. I'm all right in the shorts. >> You're you're ahead of me.

32:52 >> You're you're ahead of me.

32:52 >> You're you're ahead of me. >> Yeah, that's the thing. The battlefields

32:53 >> Yeah, that's the thing. The battlefields

32:53 >> Yeah, that's the thing. The battlefields are so interesting because if you start

32:55 are so interesting because if you start

32:55 are so interesting because if you start to get in the mindset, it can be very

32:56 to get in the mindset, it can be very

32:56 to get in the mindset, it can be very somber, very sobering and all that

32:58 somber, very sobering and all that

32:58 somber, very sobering and all that stuff. But I always It's the same thing

33:00 stuff. But I always It's the same thing

33:00 stuff. But I always It's the same thing with graveyards. Whenever I go to visit

33:01 with graveyards. Whenever I go to visit

33:01 with graveyards. Whenever I go to visit historic graves, I like to think that if

33:03 historic graves, I like to think that if

33:03 historic graves, I like to think that if I was in the grave, I'd want people to

33:04 I was in the grave, I'd want people to

33:04 I was in the grave, I'd want people to be enjoying life and living life around

33:06 be enjoying life and living life around

33:06 be enjoying life and living life around me and all that kind of stuff. Different

33:08 me and all that kind of stuff. Different

33:08 me and all that kind of stuff. Different ways of looking at it. But I asked you

33:09 ways of looking at it. But I asked you

33:09 ways of looking at it. But I asked you about this earlier. The photo here was

33:11 about this earlier. The photo here was

33:11 about this earlier. The photo here was staged, but this breast work here, these

33:14 staged, but this breast work here, these

33:14 staged, but this breast work here, these rocks piled up, that was original. I

33:16 rocks piled up, that was original. I

33:16 rocks piled up, that was original. I mean, I'm sure they've been repiled as

33:17 mean, I'm sure they've been repiled as

33:18 mean, I'm sure they've been repiled as you're doing.

33:18 you're doing.

33:18 you're doing. >> They have been and and you know, you see

33:19 >> They have been and and you know, you see

33:19 >> They have been and and you know, you see the park comes in every few decades and

33:21 the park comes in every few decades and

33:21 the park comes in every few decades and they cement in and refix the wall, but

33:23 they cement in and refix the wall, but

33:23 they cement in and refix the wall, but you know, maybe some of the original

33:25 you know, maybe some of the original

33:25 you know, maybe some of the original rocks are in it, but more likely not.

33:26 rocks are in it, but more likely not.

33:26 rocks are in it, but more likely not. >> But there was breast works here. And

33:28 >> But there was breast works here. And

33:28 >> But there was breast works here. And that is a perfect position to snipe up

33:31 that is a perfect position to snipe up

33:31 that is a perfect position to snipe up at Little Round Top from there. So

33:33 at Little Round Top from there. So

33:33 at Little Round Top from there. So likely there were dead soldiers right

33:35 likely there were dead soldiers right

33:35 likely there were dead soldiers right here in this area.

33:36 here in this area.

33:36 here in this area. >> Certainly. But I mean, you have four

33:37 >> Certainly. But I mean, you have four

33:38 >> Certainly. But I mean, you have four wounded for every killed. So maybe

33:39 wounded for every killed. So maybe

33:39 wounded for every killed. So maybe somebody was hit here, maybe not. They

33:40 somebody was hit here, maybe not. They

33:40 somebody was hit here, maybe not. They have good protection, so there's a less

33:42 have good protection, so there's a less

33:42 have good protection, so there's a less of a chance than getting shot somewhere

33:43 of a chance than getting shot somewhere

33:44 of a chance than getting shot somewhere else. Let me let me say something if I

33:45 else. Let me let me say something if I

33:45 else. Let me let me say something if I may though, Justin, while we walk.

33:46 may though, Justin, while we walk.

33:46 may though, Justin, while we walk. >> Say anything.

33:47 >> Say anything.

33:47 >> Say anything. >> Okay, good. Good, man. Um, so what I

33:49 >> Okay, good. Good, man. Um, so what I

33:49 >> Okay, good. Good, man. Um, so what I would say is that after the fighting for

33:51 would say is that after the fighting for

33:52 would say is that after the fighting for Devil's Den, we haven't exactly tied it

33:53 Devil's Den, we haven't exactly tied it

33:53 Devil's Den, we haven't exactly tied it up yet, but let me just say it because

33:54 up yet, but let me just say it because

33:54 up yet, but let me just say it because it seemed appropriate for what you just

33:56 it seemed appropriate for what you just

33:56 it seemed appropriate for what you just brought up. After the fighting for

33:57 brought up. After the fighting for

33:57 brought up. After the fighting for Devil's Den, the Union constructs the

33:59 Devil's Den, the Union constructs the

33:59 Devil's Den, the Union constructs the stone walls you see up there now. That's

34:01 stone walls you see up there now. That's

34:01 stone walls you see up there now. That's probably when that wall was constructed

34:03 probably when that wall was constructed

34:03 probably when that wall was constructed as well. And there is for 22 hours into

34:05 as well. And there is for 22 hours into

34:05 as well. And there is for 22 hours into July 3rd.

34:05 July 3rd.

34:05 July 3rd. >> For the Confederates, you mean?

34:06 >> For the Confederates, you mean?

34:06 >> For the Confederates, you mean? >> Well, both. The Union constructs walls

34:08 >> Well, both. The Union constructs walls

34:08 >> Well, both. The Union constructs walls on Little Round Top. Confederates

34:09 on Little Round Top. Confederates

34:09 on Little Round Top. Confederates construct walls and fortresses down here

34:12 construct walls and fortresses down here

34:12 construct walls and fortresses down here and things like that. We only have one

34:13 and things like that. We only have one

34:13 and things like that. We only have one photographed, you know, you know, and

34:15 photographed, you know, you know, and

34:15 photographed, you know, you know, and it's that one. But there's going to be a

34:17 it's that one. But there's going to be a

34:17 it's that one. But there's going to be a lively sharpshooter action between them.

34:18 lively sharpshooter action between them.

34:18 lively sharpshooter action between them. 500 yards between here and the crest of

34:20 500 yards between here and the crest of

34:20 500 yards between here and the crest of Devil's Dead. Okay.

34:22 Devil's Dead. Okay.

34:22 Devil's Dead. Okay. >> While they're doing this, there's all

34:24 >> While they're doing this, there's all

34:24 >> While they're doing this, there's all sorts of stuff going on and there's a

34:25 sorts of stuff going on and there's a

34:25 sorts of stuff going on and there's a lot of stories. Yankees talking about

34:26 lot of stories. Yankees talking about

34:26 lot of stories. Yankees talking about how they could catch their hat full of

34:28 how they could catch their hat full of

34:28 how they could catch their hat full of bullets if their hat could catch

34:29 bullets if their hat could catch

34:29 bullets if their hat could catch bullets. Fast forward into the late

34:32 bullets. Fast forward into the late

34:32 bullets. Fast forward into the late 1970s and some of y'all will remember

34:33 1970s and some of y'all will remember

34:34 1970s and some of y'all will remember this when Manakim began and Anoir Sadat

34:36 this when Manakim began and Anoir Sadat

34:36 this when Manakim began and Anoir Sadat and Jimmy Carter came to Gettysburg when

34:39 and Jimmy Carter came to Gettysburg when

34:39 and Jimmy Carter came to Gettysburg when they were at Camp David which is not far

34:41 they were at Camp David which is not far

34:41 they were at Camp David which is not far from here in the most distant mountains.

34:43 from here in the most distant mountains.

34:43 from here in the most distant mountains. We're near Camp David. So they came up

34:45 We're near Camp David. So they came up

34:45 We're near Camp David. So they came up here. What a better place, you know, to

34:47 here. What a better place, you know, to

34:47 here. What a better place, you know, to talk about it.

34:47 talk about it.

34:48 talk about it. >> And the Secret Service on Little

34:50 >> And the Secret Service on Little

34:50 >> And the Secret Service on Little Roundtop had heard the stories about

34:52 Roundtop had heard the stories about

34:52 Roundtop had heard the stories about Confederate sharpshooters picking off

34:53 Confederate sharpshooters picking off

34:53 Confederate sharpshooters picking off hapless lanky Yankees on Little Roundtop

34:55 hapless lanky Yankees on Little Roundtop

34:55 hapless lanky Yankees on Little Roundtop and therefore posted Secret Service here

34:57 and therefore posted Secret Service here

34:57 and therefore posted Secret Service here at Devil's Den. Oh yeah. really

34:59 at Devil's Den. Oh yeah. really

35:00 at Devil's Den. Oh yeah. really >> using history to inform your present.

35:02 >> using history to inform your present.

35:02 >> using history to inform your present. Pretty cool story.

35:02 Pretty cool story.

35:02 Pretty cool story. >> Well, that is what history is for, I

35:04 >> Well, that is what history is for, I

35:04 >> Well, that is what history is for, I would say. That's amazing.

35:06 would say. That's amazing.

35:06 would say. That's amazing. >> There you go.

35:06 >> There you go.

35:06 >> There you go. >> Okay, so now we're up on top of Devil's

35:09 >> Okay, so now we're up on top of Devil's

35:09 >> Okay, so now we're up on top of Devil's Den. Devil's Den is back this way, and

35:11 Den. Devil's Den is back this way, and

35:11 Den. Devil's Den is back this way, and we're up on top of the hill. And I have

35:12 we're up on top of the hill. And I have

35:12 we're up on top of the hill. And I have to assume that these heights were the

35:14 to assume that these heights were the

35:14 to assume that these heights were the thing that were the most uh sought

35:17 thing that were the most uh sought

35:17 thing that were the most uh sought after. Well, you know,

35:20 after. Well, you know,

35:20 after. Well, you know, history would prove that Little Round

35:22 history would prove that Little Round

35:22 history would prove that Little Round Tops Heights would be a better place to

35:24 Tops Heights would be a better place to

35:24 Tops Heights would be a better place to defend as Dan Sickls would find out

35:26 defend as Dan Sickls would find out

35:26 defend as Dan Sickls would find out because the Confederates are going to

35:27 because the Confederates are going to

35:27 because the Confederates are going to capture this position, lose it, and

35:29 capture this position, lose it, and

35:29 capture this position, lose it, and recapture it for good um at least on

35:31 recapture it for good um at least on

35:31 recapture it for good um at least on July 2nd. Okay? But it is for the top of

35:33 July 2nd. Okay? But it is for the top of

35:33 July 2nd. Okay? But it is for the top of the hill that the fight for Devil's Den

35:35 the hill that the fight for Devil's Den

35:35 the hill that the fight for Devil's Den is fought. Okay? And it overlaps with

35:37 is fought. Okay? And it overlaps with

35:37 is fought. Okay? And it overlaps with fighting in other places, the heat up at

35:39 fighting in other places, the heat up at

35:39 fighting in other places, the heat up at the wheat field and the fighting for

35:41 the wheat field and the fighting for

35:41 the wheat field and the fighting for Little Round Top. There was a terrible

35:43 Little Round Top. There was a terrible

35:43 Little Round Top. There was a terrible fight right up here and in front of us

35:44 fight right up here and in front of us

35:44 fight right up here and in front of us at a place called the Triangle Field

35:46 at a place called the Triangle Field

35:46 at a place called the Triangle Field when you have Texans um and with

35:49 when you have Texans um and with

35:49 when you have Texans um and with Georgians behind them coming up through

35:50 Georgians behind them coming up through

35:50 Georgians behind them coming up through that field and New Yorkers charging down

35:53 that field and New Yorkers charging down

35:53 that field and New Yorkers charging down into them. The New Yorkers charge down

35:56 into them. The New Yorkers charge down

35:56 into them. The New Yorkers charge down sty the Confederates for a time only to

35:58 sty the Confederates for a time only to

35:58 sty the Confederates for a time only to have Alamians arrive on the end of their

35:59 have Alamians arrive on the end of their

36:00 have Alamians arrive on the end of their line called their flank. And if you

36:01 line called their flank. And if you

36:01 line called their flank. And if you shoot down someone's flank, you can't

36:03 shoot down someone's flank, you can't

36:03 shoot down someone's flank, you can't miss.

36:04 miss.

36:04 miss. So being flanked is a terrible thing and

36:06 So being flanked is a terrible thing and

36:06 So being flanked is a terrible thing and these guys are going to suffer more men

36:08 these guys are going to suffer more men

36:08 these guys are going to suffer more men killed than any other regiment at

36:10 killed than any other regiment at

36:10 killed than any other regiment at Devil's Den, including their colonel and

36:12 Devil's Den, including their colonel and

36:12 Devil's Den, including their colonel and their major and other people like that.

36:14 their major and other people like that.

36:14 their major and other people like that. It's a terrible fight, but it slows down

36:15 It's a terrible fight, but it slows down

36:15 It's a terrible fight, but it slows down the Confederates. Sometimes in the Civil

36:17 the Confederates. Sometimes in the Civil

36:17 the Confederates. Sometimes in the Civil War and in the military today, a good

36:20 War and in the military today, a good

36:20 War and in the military today, a good commander has to decide how much uh

36:23 commander has to decide how much uh

36:23 commander has to decide how much uh somebody's life is worth. And sometimes

36:25 somebody's life is worth. And sometimes

36:25 somebody's life is worth. And sometimes in the Civil War, it was five minutes or

36:27 in the Civil War, it was five minutes or

36:27 in the Civil War, it was five minutes or 10 minutes. That's what your life or

36:28 10 minutes. That's what your life or

36:28 10 minutes. That's what your life or your livelihood is worth.

36:29 your livelihood is worth.

36:30 your livelihood is worth. >> That is crazy. And obviously they're

36:31 >> That is crazy. And obviously they're

36:32 >> That is crazy. And obviously they're fighting for the high positions because

36:33 fighting for the high positions because

36:33 fighting for the high positions because they want to get artillery up here and

36:35 they want to get artillery up here and

36:35 they want to get artillery up here and guns up here to shoot down. Well, you

36:37 guns up here to shoot down. Well, you

36:37 guns up here to shoot down. Well, you always want the high ground, right? If

36:38 always want the high ground, right? If

36:38 always want the high ground, right? If Anakin Skywalker taught us anything.

36:40 Anakin Skywalker taught us anything.

36:40 Anakin Skywalker taught us anything. It's all you need the high ground.

36:42 It's all you need the high ground.

36:42 It's all you need the high ground. >> Well, yeah. He failed to have it.

36:43 >> Well, yeah. He failed to have it.

36:43 >> Well, yeah. He failed to have it. Obi-Wan was the one. It's over. And

36:45 Obi-Wan was the one. It's over. And

36:45 Obi-Wan was the one. It's over. And Anakin didn't learn that, right? I love

36:47 Anakin didn't learn that, right? I love

36:47 Anakin didn't learn that, right? I love bringing that into it. You know, I know

36:48 bringing that into it. You know, I know

36:48 bringing that into it. You know, I know just about as much about Star Wars as I

36:50 just about as much about Star Wars as I

36:50 just about as much about Star Wars as I do about Civil War. It's my thing. And

36:52 do about Civil War. It's my thing. And

36:52 do about Civil War. It's my thing. And Star Wars is a civil war.

36:54 Star Wars is a civil war.

36:54 Star Wars is a civil war. >> The original movie, what are the first

36:55 >> The original movie, what are the first

36:55 >> The original movie, what are the first words of it? It is a time of civil war.

36:57 words of it? It is a time of civil war.

36:57 words of it? It is a time of civil war. So, thank you for bringing that. Before

36:59 So, thank you for bringing that. Before

36:59 So, thank you for bringing that. Before we wrap up, what I was talking earlier

37:01 we wrap up, what I was talking earlier

37:01 we wrap up, what I was talking earlier about um sickles, he really should have

37:03 about um sickles, he really should have

37:03 about um sickles, he really should have been down there and sort of having

37:05 been down there and sort of having

37:05 been down there and sort of having little roundtop defended. He moved his

37:06 little roundtop defended. He moved his

37:06 little roundtop defended. He moved his line uh without orders or telling anyone

37:09 line uh without orders or telling anyone

37:09 line uh without orders or telling anyone presumably and and so he was up here on

37:12 presumably and and so he was up here on

37:12 presumably and and so he was up here on this little null rather than up there on

37:15 this little null rather than up there on

37:15 this little null rather than up there on what I would I just you look at that and

37:17 what I would I just you look at that and

37:17 what I would I just you look at that and you think it's obvious, you know.

37:19 you think it's obvious, you know.

37:19 you think it's obvious, you know. >> Well, you know, of course it is. Now,

37:20 >> Well, you know, of course it is. Now,

37:20 >> Well, you know, of course it is. Now, had his move prove proven to be the

37:23 had his move prove proven to be the

37:23 had his move prove proven to be the right move,

37:24 right move,

37:24 right move, >> we would all say,

37:25 >> we would all say,

37:25 >> we would all say, >> we would all be talking about it. It's a

37:26 >> we would all be talking about it. It's a

37:26 >> we would all be talking about it. It's a good time, good way to wrap it up

37:28 good time, good way to wrap it up

37:28 good time, good way to wrap it up because remember sickles goes and moves

37:30 because remember sickles goes and moves

37:30 because remember sickles goes and moves out in front of little roundtop like

37:31 out in front of little roundtop like

37:31 out in front of little roundtop like this. He forms what we now call sickle

37:33 this. He forms what we now call sickle

37:33 this. He forms what we now call sickle salient. Okay? And sickle salient goes

37:35 salient. Okay? And sickle salient goes

37:35 salient. Okay? And sickle salient goes along the Emittsburg road. If there a

37:36 along the Emittsburg road. If there a

37:36 along the Emittsburg road. If there a car comes, you'll be able to see one

37:38 car comes, you'll be able to see one

37:38 car comes, you'll be able to see one over there. Okay? And then it bends back

37:39 over there. Okay? And then it bends back

37:39 over there. Okay? And then it bends back through these trees through the wheat

37:41 through these trees through the wheat

37:41 through these trees through the wheat field over here to Devil's Den. Okay? So

37:42 field over here to Devil's Den. Okay? So

37:42 field over here to Devil's Den. Okay? So he's in front of it, right? But his line

37:44 he's in front of it, right? But his line

37:44 he's in front of it, right? But his line used to be this long and now it's twice

37:46 used to be this long and now it's twice

37:46 used to be this long and now it's twice as long. He doesn't have enough men to

37:48 as long. He doesn't have enough men to

37:48 as long. He doesn't have enough men to manage and General me will have to

37:49 manage and General me will have to

37:49 manage and General me will have to funnel 15,000 soldiers into Cickle's

37:52 funnel 15,000 soldiers into Cickle's

37:52 funnel 15,000 soldiers into Cickle's line to bail him out. And these guys had

37:54 line to bail him out. And these guys had

37:54 line to bail him out. And these guys had to come from somewhere else, places like

37:56 to come from somewhere else, places like

37:56 to come from somewhere else, places like Culps Hill and the Union Center that

37:58 Culps Hill and the Union Center that

37:58 Culps Hill and the Union Center that would create complete emergencies for

37:59 would create complete emergencies for

38:00 would create complete emergencies for the Union Army. Okay, so Dan Cickles is

38:02 the Union Army. Okay, so Dan Cickles is

38:02 the Union Army. Okay, so Dan Cickles is doing this. Okay, and eventually he's

38:04 doing this. Okay, and eventually he's

38:04 doing this. Okay, and eventually he's going to lose 40% casualties, his whole

38:06 going to lose 40% casualties, his whole

38:06 going to lose 40% casualties, his whole core. And eventually the Union will be

38:08 core. And eventually the Union will be

38:08 core. And eventually the Union will be driven back or falling back to the line

38:10 driven back or falling back to the line

38:10 driven back or falling back to the line they'd initially established. Okay, but

38:13 they'd initially established. Okay, but

38:13 they'd initially established. Okay, but Sickls lived longer than General Me.

38:15 Sickls lived longer than General Me.

38:15 Sickls lived longer than General Me. Sickless lived longer than any other

38:17 Sickless lived longer than any other

38:17 Sickless lived longer than any other main core commander here. And Sickls is

38:19 main core commander here. And Sickls is

38:19 main core commander here. And Sickls is that guy that that you might you don't

38:22 that guy that that you might you don't

38:22 that guy that that you might you don't trust him. You might want to sit down

38:23 trust him. You might want to sit down

38:23 trust him. You might want to sit down and have a drink with him and you don't

38:25 and have a drink with him and you don't

38:25 and have a drink with him and you don't want to be in a public fight with him.

38:27 want to be in a public fight with him.

38:27 want to be in a public fight with him. You've you've experienced people like

38:28 You've you've experienced people like

38:28 You've you've experienced people like this before. He's that guy. He's the

38:30 this before. He's that guy. He's the

38:30 this before. He's that guy. He's the ultimate PR man and he outlives all the

38:33 ultimate PR man and he outlives all the

38:33 ultimate PR man and he outlives all the other major generals who are here. And

38:35 other major generals who are here. And

38:35 other major generals who are here. And his argument is one that would later be

38:37 his argument is one that would later be

38:37 his argument is one that would later be used by George W. Bush. He said, "No, I

38:40 used by George W. Bush. He said, "No, I

38:40 used by George W. Bush. He said, "No, I blunted the attack out there so we

38:42 blunted the attack out there so we

38:42 blunted the attack out there so we didn't have to fight him on our main

38:43 didn't have to fight him on our main

38:44 didn't have to fight him on our main line." In short, when George W. Bush

38:46 line." In short, when George W. Bush

38:46 line." In short, when George W. Bush said it in ' 06 or something like that

38:47 said it in ' 06 or something like that

38:47 said it in ' 06 or something like that or '04, we're fighting him over there so

38:50 or '04, we're fighting him over there so

38:50 or '04, we're fighting him over there so we don't have to fight him over there.

38:51 we don't have to fight him over there.

38:51 we don't have to fight him over there. He said that about, you know, the Middle

38:53 He said that about, you know, the Middle

38:53 He said that about, you know, the Middle East and and American soil. Sickles was

38:56 East and and American soil. Sickles was

38:56 East and and American soil. Sickles was doing the same thing. And I'll tell you

38:57 doing the same thing. And I'll tell you

38:57 doing the same thing. And I'll tell you what, it worked. It wasn't the tide

38:59 what, it worked. It wasn't the tide

38:59 what, it worked. It wasn't the tide really didn't turn against sickles until

39:01 really didn't turn against sickles until

39:01 really didn't turn against sickles until the 1960s or 70s. It really worked.

39:04 the 1960s or 70s. It really worked.

39:04 the 1960s or 70s. It really worked. Living and telling stories is very

39:07 Living and telling stories is very

39:07 Living and telling stories is very effective. And you know, history is told

39:09 effective. And you know, history is told

39:09 effective. And you know, history is told and written by winners who live.

39:11 and written by winners who live.

39:11 and written by winners who live. >> So they did battle here. They stalled a

39:13 >> So they did battle here. They stalled a

39:13 >> So they did battle here. They stalled a little bit so that we could get troops

39:14 little bit so that we could get troops

39:14 little bit so that we could get troops up on Little Round Top. I say we cuz I

39:16 up on Little Round Top. I say we cuz I

39:16 up on Little Round Top. I say we cuz I guess I'm a Yankee.

39:17 guess I'm a Yankee.

39:17 guess I'm a Yankee. >> I'm a Yankee, too. and uh and they they

39:20 >> I'm a Yankee, too. and uh and they they

39:20 >> I'm a Yankee, too. and uh and they they do ultimately lose this hill here and

39:22 do ultimately lose this hill here and

39:22 do ultimately lose this hill here and lose Devil's Den. And so then what

39:24 lose Devil's Den. And so then what

39:24 lose Devil's Den. And so then what happens because there's still a whole

39:25 happens because there's still a whole

39:25 happens because there's still a whole other day of the battle. So to to end,

39:27 other day of the battle. So to to end,

39:27 other day of the battle. So to to end, we should probably say what happened

39:29 we should probably say what happened

39:29 we should probably say what happened there. I never hear what happens on the

39:30 there. I never hear what happens on the

39:30 there. I never hear what happens on the >> third. The whole battle of Gettysburg

39:32 >> third. The whole battle of Gettysburg

39:32 >> third. The whole battle of Gettysburg from my favorite place here at Devil's

39:33 from my favorite place here at Devil's

39:33 from my favorite place here at Devil's Den. So yes, the Confederates capture

39:35 Den. So yes, the Confederates capture

39:35 Den. So yes, the Confederates capture this. These guys are too worn out to

39:37 this. These guys are too worn out to

39:37 this. These guys are too worn out to attack Little Roundtop. Little roundtop

39:39 attack Little Roundtop. Little roundtop

39:39 attack Little Roundtop. Little roundtop holds, but the Confederates had huge

39:41 holds, but the Confederates had huge

39:41 holds, but the Confederates had huge success this day. They're going to

39:42 success this day. They're going to

39:42 success this day. They're going to capture the peach orchard right away,

39:44 capture the peach orchard right away,

39:44 capture the peach orchard right away, rolling over Sickle salient. are going

39:45 rolling over Sickle salient. are going

39:46 rolling over Sickle salient. are going to eventually capture the wheat field

39:47 to eventually capture the wheat field

39:47 to eventually capture the wheat field and then some of those same soldiers on

39:49 and then some of those same soldiers on

39:49 and then some of those same soldiers on July 2nd uh who attack the wheat field

39:51 July 2nd uh who attack the wheat field

39:51 July 2nd uh who attack the wheat field go and try to attack Little Roundtop

39:53 go and try to attack Little Roundtop

39:53 go and try to attack Little Roundtop from the north. Okay, like sort of that

39:55 from the north. Okay, like sort of that

39:55 from the north. Okay, like sort of that way. But their attack looked like a wave

39:57 way. But their attack looked like a wave

39:57 way. But their attack looked like a wave on a beach just being pushed up a little

39:59 on a beach just being pushed up a little

39:59 on a beach just being pushed up a little from behind. The Union has more

40:00 from behind. The Union has more

40:00 from behind. The Union has more reinforcements, push the Confederates

40:02 reinforcements, push the Confederates

40:02 reinforcements, push the Confederates back. Okay, later that night there's

40:03 back. Okay, later that night there's

40:04 back. Okay, later that night there's fighting on Culps Hill and East Cemetery

40:06 fighting on Culps Hill and East Cemetery

40:06 fighting on Culps Hill and East Cemetery Hill. that fighting on Culps Hill where

40:07 Hill. that fighting on Culps Hill where

40:08 Hill. that fighting on Culps Hill where the Confederates make some gains but not

40:09 the Confederates make some gains but not

40:09 the Confederates make some gains but not enough because the next day in seven

40:11 enough because the next day in seven

40:11 enough because the next day in seven hours of fighting the Union is going to

40:13 hours of fighting the Union is going to

40:13 hours of fighting the Union is going to recapture their breast works on Culps

40:16 recapture their breast works on Culps

40:16 recapture their breast works on Culps Hill. Okay. And that is before the

40:19 Hill. Okay. And that is before the

40:19 Hill. Okay. And that is before the famous attack now known as Pickicket's

40:21 famous attack now known as Pickicket's

40:21 famous attack now known as Pickicket's charge where 12,500 Confederates are

40:24 charge where 12,500 Confederates are

40:24 charge where 12,500 Confederates are going to attack across an open field,

40:25 going to attack across an open field,

40:25 going to attack across an open field, break through part of the Union line,

40:27 break through part of the Union line,

40:27 break through part of the Union line, but the Union has simply more

40:29 but the Union has simply more

40:29 but the Union has simply more reinforcements coming than Pickicket had

40:31 reinforcements coming than Pickicket had

40:31 reinforcements coming than Pickicket had in his whole charge. Pickicket and all

40:32 in his whole charge. Pickicket and all

40:32 in his whole charge. Pickicket and all the Confederates did in all their

40:33 the Confederates did in all their

40:33 the Confederates did in all their charge. That will push the Confederates

40:35 charge. That will push the Confederates

40:35 charge. That will push the Confederates back. There's more artillery fighting.

40:37 back. There's more artillery fighting.

40:37 back. There's more artillery fighting. I'm sorry, a cavalry fighting horsemen

40:39 I'm sorry, a cavalry fighting horsemen

40:39 I'm sorry, a cavalry fighting horsemen going on here. But make no mistake,

40:41 going on here. But make no mistake,

40:42 going on here. But make no mistake, Roberty Lee by the end of July 3rd has

40:44 Roberty Lee by the end of July 3rd has

40:44 Roberty Lee by the end of July 3rd has been beaten like he's never been beaten

40:45 been beaten like he's never been beaten

40:45 been beaten like he's never been beaten before. In one attack in Pickicket's

40:47 before. In one attack in Pickicket's

40:47 before. In one attack in Pickicket's charge, he lost 23 battle flags, more

40:50 charge, he lost 23 battle flags, more

40:50 charge, he lost 23 battle flags, more than he'd lost in the entire war up to

40:51 than he'd lost in the entire war up to

40:51 than he'd lost in the entire war up to that point combined. The Union won a

40:53 that point combined. The Union won a

40:53 that point combined. The Union won a huge victory and the Southerners are

40:55 huge victory and the Southerners are

40:55 huge victory and the Southerners are pushed back eventually into Virginia.

40:57 pushed back eventually into Virginia.

40:57 pushed back eventually into Virginia. >> I guess there's no better place to end

40:58 >> I guess there's no better place to end

40:58 >> I guess there's no better place to end than with the end of the battle. And

41:01 than with the end of the battle. And

41:01 than with the end of the battle. And Gary, thank you so much. This has been

41:03 Gary, thank you so much. This has been

41:03 Gary, thank you so much. This has been the most fun I've had in so long. This

41:05 the most fun I've had in so long. This

41:05 the most fun I've had in so long. This is like Disneyland for me and I like

41:07 is like Disneyland for me and I like

41:07 is like Disneyland for me and I like Disneyland,

41:08 Disneyland,

41:08 Disneyland, >> dude. Our first official video. I'm so

41:09 >> dude. Our first official video. I'm so

41:09 >> dude. Our first official video. I'm so happy.

41:10 happy.

41:10 happy. >> I know you have a ton of stuff to do,

41:11 >> I know you have a ton of stuff to do,

41:11 >> I know you have a ton of stuff to do, but I just want to say before you go,

41:12 but I just want to say before you go,

41:12 but I just want to say before you go, where can people find your videos?

41:14 where can people find your videos?

41:14 where can people find your videos? Because if you think this video is good,

41:16 Because if you think this video is good,

41:16 Because if you think this video is good, you've done just hundreds and hundreds

41:18 you've done just hundreds and hundreds

41:18 you've done just hundreds and hundreds of videos all over the battlefield from

41:20 of videos all over the battlefield from

41:20 of videos all over the battlefield from the tiniest spots and the cracks in the

41:22 the tiniest spots and the cracks in the

41:22 the tiniest spots and the cracks in the rocks to big overall things with with

41:24 rocks to big overall things with with

41:24 rocks to big overall things with with animated maps and everything. So, where

41:26 animated maps and everything. So, where

41:26 animated maps and everything. So, where can people find that?

41:26 can people find that?

41:26 can people find that? >> The main place, first of all, go to

41:27 >> The main place, first of all, go to

41:27 >> The main place, first of all, go to battlefields.org. That's the American

41:29 battlefields.org. That's the American

41:29 battlefields.org. That's the American Battlefield Trust to learn more about

41:30 Battlefield Trust to learn more about

41:30 Battlefield Trust to learn more about how to educate and inspire and people

41:33 how to educate and inspire and people

41:33 how to educate and inspire and people about the revolution to the Civil War as

41:35 about the revolution to the Civil War as

41:36 about the revolution to the Civil War as well as to uh of course preserve those

41:38 well as to uh of course preserve those

41:38 well as to uh of course preserve those battlefields. Then check out the

41:39 battlefields. Then check out the

41:39 battlefields. Then check out the American Battlefield Trust YouTube

41:40 American Battlefield Trust YouTube

41:40 American Battlefield Trust YouTube channel. We have 1400 videos just like

41:42 channel. We have 1400 videos just like

41:42 channel. We have 1400 videos just like Justin described. And if you're really

41:44 Justin described. And if you're really

41:44 Justin described. And if you're really hurting, go to Gary Adelman Civil War

41:46 hurting, go to Gary Adelman Civil War

41:46 hurting, go to Gary Adelman Civil War page on Facebook.

41:47 page on Facebook.

41:47 page on Facebook. >> Really good. If you use Facebook at all,

41:49 >> Really good. If you use Facebook at all,

41:49 >> Really good. If you use Facebook at all, you have to go there. But just real

41:50 you have to go there. But just real

41:50 you have to go there. But just real quick too before we go, what what does

41:52 quick too before we go, what what does

41:52 quick too before we go, what what does the American Battlefield Trust do other

41:54 the American Battlefield Trust do other

41:54 the American Battlefield Trust do other Well, the most important thing I think

41:55 Well, the most important thing I think

41:55 Well, the most important thing I think you guys do is you buy places that were

41:59 you guys do is you buy places that were

41:59 you guys do is you buy places that were part of battlefields and then what?

42:01 part of battlefields and then what?

42:01 part of battlefields and then what? >> And that's we we we purchase places only

42:04 >> And that's we we we purchase places only

42:04 >> And that's we we we purchase places only where they fought from Civil War, War of

42:06 where they fought from Civil War, War of

42:06 where they fought from Civil War, War of 1812, and the Revolution. Okay, Congress

42:08 1812, and the Revolution. Okay, Congress

42:08 1812, and the Revolution. Okay, Congress has established these boundaries. We

42:10 has established these boundaries. We

42:10 has established these boundaries. We know what the core battlefield is. We

42:11 know what the core battlefield is. We

42:11 know what the core battlefield is. We purchase those places and in a perfect

42:13 purchase those places and in a perfect

42:13 purchase those places and in a perfect world we then restore them to what they

42:15 world we then restore them to what they

42:15 world we then restore them to what they look like at the time.

42:16 look like at the time.

42:16 look like at the time. >> So remove new buildings, remove all that

42:17 >> So remove new buildings, remove all that

42:17 >> So remove new buildings, remove all that kind of stuff

42:17 kind of stuff

42:18 kind of stuff >> and ideally transfer them to the federal

42:19 >> and ideally transfer them to the federal

42:19 >> and ideally transfer them to the federal government or a state entity who can

42:21 government or a state entity who can

42:21 government or a state entity who can then steward it. We want to save the

42:22 then steward it. We want to save the

42:22 then steward it. We want to save the battlefield.

42:22 battlefield.

42:22 battlefield. >> There's pieces of around Gettysburg that

42:24 >> There's pieces of around Gettysburg that

42:24 >> There's pieces of around Gettysburg that you guys have purchased, restored and

42:26 you guys have purchased, restored and

42:26 you guys have purchased, restored and then given to the National Park System.

42:28 then given to the National Park System.

42:28 then given to the National Park System. >> More than a thousand acres of the 8,000

42:30 >> More than a thousand acres of the 8,000

42:30 >> More than a thousand acres of the 8,000 here and 9,000.

42:31 here and 9,000.

42:31 here and 9,000. >> People can donate there, right? And

42:32 >> People can donate there, right? And

42:32 >> People can donate there, right? And support the Battlefield Trust.

42:34 support the Battlefield Trust.

42:34 support the Battlefield Trust. >> Yes, they can.

42:35 >> Yes, they can.

42:35 >> Yes, they can. >> Battlefields.org.

42:37 >> Battlefields.org.

42:37 >> Battlefields.org. >> Correct. Dude, I don't know if you guys

42:39 >> Correct. Dude, I don't know if you guys

42:39 >> Correct. Dude, I don't know if you guys could tell, but I thoroughly enjoyed

42:41 could tell, but I thoroughly enjoyed

42:42 could tell, but I thoroughly enjoyed that. Sounds weird to say when you're

42:43 that. Sounds weird to say when you're

42:43 that. Sounds weird to say when you're standing on a spot where so many men

42:47 standing on a spot where so many men

42:47 standing on a spot where so many men fought and died and gave their lives. I

42:50 fought and died and gave their lives. I

42:50 fought and died and gave their lives. I know it sounds weird to say something

42:51 know it sounds weird to say something

42:51 know it sounds weird to say something like that when you're standing on a

42:53 like that when you're standing on a

42:53 like that when you're standing on a battlefield where so many men fought and

42:56 battlefield where so many men fought and

42:56 battlefield where so many men fought and bled and gave their lives. Well, my

42:59 bled and gave their lives. Well, my

42:59 bled and gave their lives. Well, my favorite thing on the planet is to get

43:01 favorite thing on the planet is to get

43:01 favorite thing on the planet is to get hands on or to get boots on the ground

43:04 hands on or to get boots on the ground

43:04 hands on or to get boots on the ground with history. Unfortunately, it's not

43:06 with history. Unfortunately, it's not

43:06 with history. Unfortunately, it's not always possible to visit every location,

43:08 always possible to visit every location,

43:08 always possible to visit every location, which is why I appreciate so much the

43:11 which is why I appreciate so much the

43:11 which is why I appreciate so much the work that Gary Adelman does, traveling

43:13 work that Gary Adelman does, traveling

43:13 work that Gary Adelman does, traveling around to all the historic battlefields

43:15 around to all the historic battlefields

43:16 around to all the historic battlefields in America, getting you hands-on with

43:17 in America, getting you hands-on with

43:17 in America, getting you hands-on with history, teaching you different stuff,

43:19 history, teaching you different stuff,

43:19 history, teaching you different stuff, pointing out some of the sites that some

43:20 pointing out some of the sites that some

43:20 pointing out some of the sites that some of us will never get to see. And it was

43:23 of us will never get to see. And it was

43:23 of us will never get to see. And it was a real treat, an honor in fact, to have

43:25 a real treat, an honor in fact, to have

43:25 a real treat, an honor in fact, to have a little bit of his time and a little

43:27 a little bit of his time and a little

43:27 a little bit of his time and a little bit of a personal tour of some of the

43:28 bit of a personal tour of some of the

43:28 bit of a personal tour of some of the sites on the battlefield. When we were

43:30 sites on the battlefield. When we were

43:30 sites on the battlefield. When we were done filming, he drove me back to my

43:31 done filming, he drove me back to my

43:31 done filming, he drove me back to my hotel really quick so I could get the

43:33 hotel really quick so I could get the

43:33 hotel really quick so I could get the car. And although he might protest, I

43:34 car. And although he might protest, I

43:34 car. And although he might protest, I feel like it's safe to say he knows

43:36 feel like it's safe to say he knows

43:36 feel like it's safe to say he knows virtually every inch of this

43:37 virtually every inch of this

43:38 virtually every inch of this battlefield. So the whole ride, he's

43:39 battlefield. So the whole ride, he's

43:39 battlefield. So the whole ride, he's pointing out all these things I had

43:40 pointing out all these things I had

43:40 pointing out all these things I had never seen before. I've been to

43:42 never seen before. I've been to

43:42 never seen before. I've been to Gettysburg several times. I know more

43:44 Gettysburg several times. I know more

43:44 Gettysburg several times. I know more about the Battle of Gettysburg than

43:46 about the Battle of Gettysburg than

43:46 about the Battle of Gettysburg than probably the average person in America.

43:49 probably the average person in America.

43:49 probably the average person in America. But every time I come here, there's a

43:51 But every time I come here, there's a

43:51 But every time I come here, there's a new part of the battlefield I like to

43:53 new part of the battlefield I like to

43:53 new part of the battlefield I like to focus on. I like to learn about. And

43:54 focus on. I like to learn about. And

43:54 focus on. I like to learn about. And that's why I had never come to Devil's

43:56 that's why I had never come to Devil's

43:56 that's why I had never come to Devil's Den before because it's a whole separate

43:58 Den before because it's a whole separate

43:58 Den before because it's a whole separate part from the elements of the battle

44:00 part from the elements of the battle

44:00 part from the elements of the battle that I had been researching before.

44:01 that I had been researching before.

44:02 that I had been researching before. board. It was great to have Gary as our

44:04 board. It was great to have Gary as our

44:04 board. It was great to have Gary as our tour guide here discussing the important

44:07 tour guide here discussing the important

44:07 tour guide here discussing the important parts of the second day of the Battle of

44:10 parts of the second day of the Battle of

44:10 parts of the second day of the Battle of Gettysburg, America's largest and

44:12 Gettysburg, America's largest and

44:12 Gettysburg, America's largest and bloodiest Civil War battlefield. Many

44:15 bloodiest Civil War battlefield. Many

44:15 bloodiest Civil War battlefield. Many would say the turning point in the Civil

44:18 would say the turning point in the Civil

44:18 would say the turning point in the Civil War where the North finally got the

44:20 War where the North finally got the

44:20 War where the North finally got the upper hand and defeated the traitorous

44:23 upper hand and defeated the traitorous

44:23 upper hand and defeated the traitorous rebels. If you want to learn more,

44:25 rebels. If you want to learn more,

44:25 rebels. If you want to learn more, definitely check out the websites just

44:28 definitely check out the websites just

44:28 definitely check out the websites just mentioned for all of Gary's stuff and

44:30 mentioned for all of Gary's stuff and

44:30 mentioned for all of Gary's stuff and support the Battlefield Trust because

44:32 support the Battlefield Trust because

44:32 support the Battlefield Trust because they're the ones doing the hard work of

44:34 they're the ones doing the hard work of

44:34 they're the ones doing the hard work of preserving these places for generations

44:36 preserving these places for generations

44:36 preserving these places for generations so that people from all over the world

44:39 so that people from all over the world

44:39 so that people from all over the world can enjoy them and our grandchildren and

44:41 can enjoy them and our grandchildren and

44:42 can enjoy them and our grandchildren and their great grandchildren. And if you

44:43 their great grandchildren. And if you

44:43 their great grandchildren. And if you enjoy my work and you want to help

44:45 enjoy my work and you want to help

44:45 enjoy my work and you want to help support that, you can go over to

44:46 support that, you can go over to

44:46 support that, you can go over to randomland.com. We have all the links

44:48 randomland.com. We have all the links

44:48 randomland.com. We have all the links there for social media and all that

44:49 there for social media and all that

44:50 there for social media and all that different stuff. appreciate it if you

44:51 different stuff. appreciate it if you

44:51 different stuff. appreciate it if you would share this video, especially

44:53 would share this video, especially

44:53 would share this video, especially because we had such a special guest. And

44:56 because we had such a special guest. And

44:56 because we had such a special guest. And supporting the American Battlefield

44:57 supporting the American Battlefield

44:57 supporting the American Battlefield Trust is a very, very worthy cause. Just

45:00 Trust is a very, very worthy cause. Just

45:00 Trust is a very, very worthy cause. Just like the cause of the Union, boys. Just

45:03 like the cause of the Union, boys. Just

45:03 like the cause of the Union, boys. Just like the cause of the Union, we will be

45:04 like the cause of the Union, we will be

45:04 like the cause of the Union, we will be back with more adventures. Certainly, we

45:06 back with more adventures. Certainly, we

45:06 back with more adventures. Certainly, we will be back to Gettysburg. It's one of

45:07 will be back to Gettysburg. It's one of

45:07 will be back to Gettysburg. It's one of my favorite places on Earth. I always

45:09 my favorite places on Earth. I always

45:09 my favorite places on Earth. I always say if I were to ever leave Southern

45:11 say if I were to ever leave Southern

45:11 say if I were to ever leave Southern California, I'd want to move here and

45:14 California, I'd want to move here and

45:14 California, I'd want to move here and have access to all of this on a regular

45:17 have access to all of this on a regular

45:17 have access to all of this on a regular basis. It's amazing. I'm so jealous of

45:19 basis. It's amazing. I'm so jealous of

45:20 basis. It's amazing. I'm so jealous of people who live on the eastern half of

45:21 people who live on the eastern half of

45:21 people who live on the eastern half of the United States that can come to these

45:23 the United States that can come to these

45:23 the United States that can come to these places. We didn't see a giant 30foot

45:25 places. We didn't see a giant 30foot

45:25 places. We didn't see a giant 30foot snake. We didn't get to see the elephant

45:27 snake. We didn't get to see the elephant

45:27 snake. We didn't get to see the elephant and experience battles for ourselves

45:29 and experience battles for ourselves

45:30 and experience battles for ourselves here. But I had and I hope you had a lot

45:33 here. But I had and I hope you had a lot

45:33 here. But I had and I hope you had a lot of fun. And we've done our duty so we

45:35 of fun. And we've done our duty so we

45:35 of fun. And we've done our duty so we can go home and sleep well. See you next

45:39 can go home and sleep well. See you next

45:39 can go home and sleep well. See you next time.

DEVIL’S DEN at Gettysburg – Exclusive Tour with Civil War Expert Garry Adelman

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